Poll: Do you think that the SAT measures intelligence

<p>"I took a real IQ test about 2 years back, and got a 148."</p>

<p>Where and how do you do that?</p>

<p>uvajoe, they're usually administered by psychologists or psychiatrists. the scaled score given is only useful within the context of the type of IQ test given; a 135 might be an amazing score using one test, but on another, it may be less spectacular. the percentile that the score falls in is what is most important.</p>

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<p>correlation of SAT to IQ</p>

<p>"You might think that they were stupid."</p>

<p>Had you read my earlier posts, you'd know that I already stated this. ==""""Just to let you know, I have a friend who has an IQ of 189 and he was thought to be stupid when he was younger simply based on the reason that he had problems with bipolar disorder, adhd, and more recently found out that he has aspergers.This friend is a 6'4" guy with a body I wish I had and is good-looking enough to be a model. He has perfect grades, but his level of thinking is so high that many don't understand a lot of what he says. That's another issue, though.""</p>

<p>ALbert Einstein was thought to have aspergers. I understand what you mean. True geniuses often find the simplest things we understand to be the hardest. </p>

<p>Note--- Being a "geek" isn't what aspergers is. There's a fine line between the two. Geeks and aspergers have a lot of the same symptoms, but one with aspergers generally can't have long relationships with people, may have other mental issues, can't get his/her point across, etc.. It's a much more complex disorder than it's thought to be. It's not just a dude who sits home all day playing video games with his other dorky friends. Also, these apergers people often seem out of it and extremely "male minded."</p>

<p>The SAT does not measure intelligence, nor can any IQ test for that matter. These tests fail to compensate for the fact that some people test better than others and/or take more time to reach logical conclusions. I am one of those people that prefers to take my time. (ex: I only scored a 1320 on my SAT math+verbal, but I managed a perfect MCAS score. The MCAS is anuntimed exam which must be passed in order to obtain a diploma from a Massachusetts Public School)</p>

<p>Intelligence assumes many different shapes and forms. For instance, one could say the SAT measures "book smarts". Is it that far of a stretch to say one's performance in sports measures biomechanical intelligence? Therefore, it is impossible to judge thinking capability via a standardized test. Albeit neccessary to provide a standard of comparison to be used by universities, why use a system in which a slacker who simply experiences good luck can outperform students who have tried their best throughout high school? (I disagree with multiple choice tests because they do not stress the importance showing work. Anyone with half a brain knows that in the real world, if one cannot prove substantive evidence to back up a plan or solution, they will be laughed at. The process is the most important part, not neccessarilly the answer)</p>

<p>My SAT score and my Stanford-Binet test scores do not match well at all.</p>

<p>For whatever reason, I find that standardized tests and I don't get along well. C'est la vie, I'll let my work speak for itself.</p>

<p>SAT measures how fast and well you can reason a problem. You dont need to know a ton of stuff to do well on that test.</p>

<p>To a degree it does, but its primary purpose is to test how well you test.</p>

<p>SAT measures a narrow section of intelligence and mainly has to do with analysis speed, which I found pointless because you do not see PhD's and other prominent people trying to compete in a race of speed. It should be more knowledge based.</p>

<p>YOUR SAT SCORE = YOUR IQ</p>

<p>the sat measures your raw skills in logic and common sense. this is exactly what an iq test measures. in fact, both tests are even administered the same way. you are given a limited amount of time, and questions with a number or possible answer choices.</p>

<p>if you are truly smart, you will be able to answer sat questions without a problem! if you cannot answer them, or have trouble answering them within the time allotted, you lack both logic and common sense!</p>

<p>hence, you have a lower iq. the sat is not difficult. it measures your ability to answer relatively simple questions with reasonable speed and accuracy.</p>

<p>if you disagree with me, it is because you didn't do well on the sat, & are just bitter about it! you know i am correct!</p>

<p>then iq can jump 7% in a month? (I went from a 1960 to a 2100)</p>

<p>no, your iq cannot. it simply means that you did not perform to your peak ability the first time. you will see similar results on an iq test. you won't receive the exact same score everytime. there are many factors which can influence your performance on any given day.</p>

<p>The SAT does correlate with a certain type of academic aptitude, with speed as a factor, whether or not you call it intelligence.</p>

<p>GPA does correlate with willingness to work hard or put up with the serious requirements or bs your school rewards.</p>

<p>Something else might measure personality, creativity, whatever.</p>

<p>Some people have results and presumably some combination of aptitute and work ethic in sports or music or such things.</p>

<p>But the rest of the world seems to base graduation from academic high schools and university admission on academic achievement, as measured by a serious, multi-day, neutrally graded set of exams over material one was expected to master. It is our failure to do so (along with social engineering) that requires reliance on these other factors.</p>

<p>The SAT is not an intelligence test...it is a reasoning test</p>

<p>These are totally different things which are often misconstrued for each other.</p>

<p>Sanguine- I am NOT familiar with the Massechusettes test, but I know that most people with a 1300 + could EASILY ace the New Jersey exam (HSPA), its not much of an accomplishment</p>

<p>Also, in the real world, you don't get partial credit if screw someone's taxes over,even if your thought process is correct. In the business world, answers matter more than thought process. </p>

<p>In the business world there is deadline, you must work fast, under pressure.</p>

<p>Every single one of your college finals will be faster paced than the SAT.</p>

<p>That being said, I do think SAT scores are reflective of intelligence</p>

<p>I don't think SATs measure intelligence of people, but I think intelligent people score high on the SATs ;)</p>

<p>I don't think so. I got 1530 on my SAT I's and 800 on SAT II Writing and when I took the new one, my writing plummeted 110 points, my math went down 70, and my CR 20. I know it's a different test and all, but going down 200 points can't be an accurate measurement of intelligence.</p>

<p>I agree entirely.</p>

<p>I qualified for AIME and got 6 on it, 800x2 on SAT II physics and iic. But I got 690 on SAT Math. One of my friends who seems to be quite dumb in my classes, asking stupid questions, relying heavily on people's tutoring and doing consistently mediocre job on tests, scored a 2370 on SAT. So, go figure.</p>

<p>Misoobishi... you said going down 200 points can't be an accurate measurement of intelligence... and that's exactly what I said... which was SATs do not accurately measure intelligence, but intelligent people do tend to do well. Which means SATs do not measure how smart people are, but high scores tend to indicate smart people... see what I'm saying? It's a small group within a big group</p>