<p>i know a guy who marked that he was black but wasnt, and he was accepted to columbia.</p>
<p>how do they check your ethnicity? do they just take your word for it if you check the box? because he did not have an interview. how does the admissions office prevent this kind of fraud?</p>
<p>That's really messed up. He'll probably really regret it later when they find out..</p>
<p>I know that with Native Americans, they ask for tribal ID.</p>
<p>But it's more diffcult with blacks and Hispanics. I have friends who are Hispanic and don't look it, and vice versa. Even with the interview, it's difficult to really tell without obvious signs (i.e. speaking Spanish fluently).</p>
<p>Seeing as there are few blacks at top schools, he'll be contacted for various minority programs. If they found out he lied, he could get his accceptance rescinded or kicked out of Columbia later on. You can't just call up Columbia afterwards to make a change to your race as you would for an address or a telephone number. This race will be on file and will follow him throughout his 4 years. For example, I'm sure he'll have to meet with advisors who'll have access to his file. It'll only take one look before they realize he's not African American. We often don't think about these things but I bet he's going to be on edge whenever he meets with a school official in his 4 years.</p>
<p>Yeah, definitely. but it's not hard to argue that you're 1/4 or 1/2 whatever, and he's dark-skinned so he might be able to pull it off. It's not like theres some secret black test with knowledge that only black people know, unless they administered a dancing test, perhaps.</p>
<p>Is there another record with the applicants' race indicated on it? like you give your social security number, can they check ethnicity from that?</p>
<p>how can he be a Caucasian dark person?</p>
<p>you can be 'un-black' and not Caucasian, Dennis.</p>
<p>I'm sure he'll get in trouble for it eventually. All it takes is for someone to TELL Columbia about this and have them check up on him. I would actually recommend that someone do this before he even enters as a freshman...</p>
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<p>what.....?</p>
<p>That <em>is</em> messed up! I sure hope he gets caught in his lie. That's just a horrible thing to do.</p>
<p>oh **** i'd be scared as **** if I were him</p>
<p>Sorry, spiffy, bad attempt at humor. I figured black people were commonly known for being good dancers.</p>
<p>Is my word the only way the admissions office might find out? Like there's no record they can check outside his application? Cause I might call in, if that's the case...</p>
<p>Dennis: There are some European nationalities that can be rather dark. Italians, especially southern ones, are often confused with Hispanics.</p>
<p>lol g2g4gold do you REALLY hate him that much?</p>
<p>Isn't there a record of his race at his HS? I know that my HS knows what everyone's race is, since it appears on everyone's Naviance. Just have Columbia contact the counselor. Wouldn't you think that his counselor would know that he's obviously not black?</p>
<p>aquamarinee: k.</p>
<p>g2g4gold, </p>
<p>The way you are probing this board for answers offering all these diff types of scenarios of how he could pull it off, it makes me wonder. Anyways, I am on the student board of academic integrity and we have heard cases like this before. From what i remember most of the time the students are caught when they go to take their picture for the student id card or they meet with their advisors who have access to that type of info, who then begin to . It almost always results in an expulsion. It is a clear violation of academic integrity.</p>
<p>hmmm i'm not sure if i'm buying this... your friend would have had to mark black on all the standardized tests he took too and again when he's applying for financial aid (if he is)...</p>
<p>if you aren't joking, i would try to find out whether or not he's mixed or like 1/8th black before reporting it. (i also would talk to your GC or other faculty at your school. i would not report it to the school myself.)</p>
<p>If you're suspecting me of not telling the truth, I don't see why, I think anyone who lost out to a likely less qualified cheater would be a little angry and curious about the process.</p>
<p>The SAT only asks for one race, correct? He could simply claim multi-racial status. He's guaranteed not black. I think the only real way he can be caught is by the GC, Aquamarinee had a good suggestion.</p>
<p>he could have left the SAT blank</p>
<p>g2g4 i agree that you should talk to your counselor and have him/her contact columbia. if only for you personal satisfacterion (and mine, as a matter of fact), tell on him and get him caught. My applause if you do.</p>
<p>regardless, for anyone thinking about doing this lol, it's clear it's not worth it. Even if he claims he's only part black, did he check "caucasian" also? I'm sure the university could do an investigation.</p>
<p>I don't think I could pull anything off since my last name is pretty obvious lol</p>