<p>its dignity... You will have to remember this your whole life that you got into college because you were a cheater!... I couldnt live with myself........
PErsonally I dont have the balls to cheat.... I couldnt risk my future just for a few points on a meaningless sat class..</p>
<p>Personally, I don't think it take courage to cheat--quite the opposite. It takes short-sightedness and cravenness. Of course, after being caught cheating, there will be the inevitable denials & claims of being misunderstood & mistreated. <sigh></sigh></p>
<p>The SAT is made for american students... that's why it is so easy for them to get high grades.... but not international students.....</p>
<p>so are you saying thats its okay for international students to cheat</p>
<p>My proctor went around recording what test you were taking each period. So you would be BUSTED. Not a bad idea though.</p>
<p>Maybe this is why CB doesn't allow you to remove individual tests per SAT II sitting. That way, you can't scribble random answers down on the scantron the first time through, while keeping track of the right answers in the booklet, and then spend the second hour rereading the material and recording your real answers.</p>
<p>You'd get 800 and 450, then 450 and 800 the next time, and Colleges/CB would no doubt suspect foul play..</p>
<p>"I'm sure that some wealthy people cheat on their taxes and such, but show me a statistic or study that indicates that the "cheat rate" is higher among the wealthy than the non-wealthy. What's more, cheating is a very poor way of actually building one's wealth (starting a business, investing, etc.). Customers are very unforgiving of any form of deception or cheating in business, and bulding a great, enduring company absolutely reqiures integrity and good business ethics. Companies such as Enron and Tyco are in ruins because of a lack of integrity in its executives."</p>
<p>^^ what godot is saying is very insightful and is worth consideration</p>
<p>I just realized you could bring a broken calculator in to the testing room and say that you're taking a math test right after the original subject test, work on the original test for 2 hours, fill in random bubbles for the math section, and at the final few minutes, say that your calculator is broken, so only your math scores get cancelled.</p>
<p>OK. DONT TRY IT! Besides, you don't want to break perfectly good calculator just for an extra hour of testtime.</p>
<p>You could also, instead of breaking it, just put used batteried on it...
Or, if there's any subject test that is really easy for you, you could have enough time to solve it well (I'm talking about extreme cases... for example, I'm a spanish native speaker, so I'm pretty sure I can get everything right in half an hour in SAT Spanish).
And tashin... being an international student is no excuse. There are plenty of international students with 2200+ SAT scores.</p>
<p>It doesn't seem like an extra hour would really help at all, unless you're ridiculuously slow reader or something. For the majority of people, either you know it or you don't.</p>
<p>Haha, I ended up got extra time on the regular SAT because some stupid preppy kids convinced the test proctor that the clock on the wall was running slow (it wasn't, but that's another story). The extra time didn't really help me at all--in fact, it just gave me time to second-guess myself and fill in answer bubbles that I probably should have left blank. If you don't know it in the regular time limit, it's not worth the risk of getting caught and probably getting it wrong.</p>
<p>only way you can cheat is if you know the proctor</p>
<p>What would happen if two people went to take the test and each one put the other's name on the answer sheet? Is there anyway they can found out?
Or if one takes Subject Test A first and tells the questions to someone else? Maybe, if it's a Math test, even write them down in the calculator and give it to someone else. Do they really check for you not to do this?</p>
<p>I know that they check your ID 2 times (once when you enter and another time after the bathroom break), but I'm not sure if they ever match it up with what it says on your scan-tron...</p>
<p>Folks, you'd be well-served if you put a small fraction of the energy you're investing in trying to cheat the system into studying & doing well in it (otherwise, just apply to schools that don't require standardized testing). The penalties if you're caught are really pretty awful--why risk it?</p>
<p>HImom - Nobody in here is trying to actually cheat. We're just discussing an interesting insight into a possible method that may or may not work (I would never cheat, but I find this idea very interesting and clever, so I enjoy reading about it and discovering whether or not it'd actually work...but I'd never actually do it since it's never worth the risk and it isn't morally right).</p>
<p>But by exploring these options, you're aiding others who MAY decide to cheat & who says nobody here is trying to cheat? Isn't that what this thread is all about? The risks as you say are really high and why assist someone who may want to cheat?</p>
<p>Let me see if I understand your point:
We shouldn't discuss flaws in collegeboard's testing policies because cheaters may benefit from that information?
So, its also wrong to discuss how ridicule things like the No-fly list are because we may help terrorist? (rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fstories%2F2006%2F10%2F05%2F60minutes%2Fmain2066624.shtml)
Or problems with voting machines because it may help someone steal an election?
(<a href="http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1064%5B/url%5D">www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1064</a>)</p>
<p>Just wondering...</p>
<p>HImom: Ignoring flaws in the system does nothing to get rid of the flaws.</p>
<p>Well... you can't really expect him to know that.
After all, that appears to be Bush's strategy regarding the war on Iraq, among other things...
And shouldn't leaders be people's role models? Apparently, it's working...</p>
<p>good one. bring bush into it, there's something new. not that i'm for bush, but i'm tired of him being dragged into everything...</p>