<p>for future reference, I think Lindha is a URM and non-native english speaker, and she applied through A Better Chance, which makes admission and FA considerably easier. there are always exceptions, scoring a 81% on SSAT means nothing but you did ok (not bad) on a standardized test</p>
<p>My d is URM but not though A Better Chance–they turned my d down…better yet"not-selected"</p>
<p>Alexz-don’t know what the ABC folks were thinking not selecting your d, definitely their loss.</p>
<p>I understand how excited and proud the new BS parents are for their kids’ achievement. And you should. Trust me, many of us have gone through this process and we know what you are talking about. But we need to be careful not to provide misinformation (by accident most of the time) because future families and students do come back to old threads for guidance.</p>
<p>hmm something is not adding up with newebs’ posts. Newebs, could you help clarify? Maybe you have two children applying the same year? </p>
<p>Newebs lists different schools/acceptances/applications on different boards. For instance newebs only lists 6 schools on this thread, newebs then listed 13 schools on the 2010 Master list as accepted/wait/rejected, even though a few days later newebs posted that their child only applied to 11 schools (on How to explain rejection to a child), but then listed 7 acceptances on the Master List by school which do not match the acceptance list they posted on other boards.
note: the same schools do not show up in every list - ie. on the Master List by School, newebs lists westover & missporters but those schools do not show up in any of their other lists. On the 2010 Master acceptance list, they did not post results to Loomis, Taft, Groton, St. Andrews, Thatcher, Westminster, Andover or St. Marks (which had been listed in other posts as schools newebs’ child was accepted to or in some cases, listed as a waitlisted school). </p>
<p>I am super confused.</p>
<p>Can somebody give advice about how to handle the problem of admission with no FA?</p>
<p>My son was admitted to top-choice school w/o FA. We had need, based on EFC, of appx 50%-- mostly because of two other kids paying tuition… however, other tuition needs will be less than anticipated-- one kid got full ride to college and the other will probably be attending public school. Even so, I really don’t think we could do Full Pay-- but we could probably do more than I initially said we could pay-- which was less than our EFC-- because I had no idea how much $$ I would need for college tuition at that time.</p>
<p>So, son really wants to go to BS-- can I “bargain” with the financial aid-- telling them I can afford more than I initially said, but less than full pay?</p>
<p>Thx.</p>
<p>If I understand you correctly, your EFC was ~50%, if you faced paying tuition for all three of your children. As the other tuitions will be less than estimated in the fall, you could now pay more than you had estimated, but less than full pay. PGMom, what do you have to lose? You can at least start a conversation. By the end of this month, the schools will have a clearer picture of their overall FA commitments. It doesn’t hurt to ask, in my opinion.</p>
<p>PGMom - Of course you should speak to them! I’ve read several times in this forum about parents calling a school’s financial aid office to see if they could get an offer increased - and they are sometimes successful. It is entirely possible that your son’s dream school couldn’t afford his 50% need . . . but might be able to afford him now. Give the school a chance - they may have room for compromise.</p>
<p>I have over a 50% financial need. I got plenty of FA at Exeter.</p>
<p>My younger son has many friends who applied this year and this has definitely been a common answer this year as compared to the past, acceptance without FA or waitlisted for FA. That being said a couple who needed almost full FA received it and at schools not known for their generous pockets.</p>
<p>I agree 2010 has been tough on FA awards. School that offers FA to 30%-40% of students last year dropped it significantly. For example Hotckhiss dropped from 36% 2009 to 27% for 2010.</p>
<p>A lost of families who qualify for FA were either denied, awarded limited FA or waitlisted fo FA.</p>
<p>Must be the effects of recission on FA funds.</p>
<p>uclasoughtmore, if you haven’t received the FA that is affordable from any of the top ten BS, suggest you start applying to other top 25-35 Bschools before the FA at those schools get obligated too.</p>
<p>At the same time plead, and try to negotiate with the FA administrator of an accepted school, if FA can be increased or matched as per SSS (FC determination) you will enroll immediatly. Plead with them your have some financial hardship and cannot afford the % FA award, and willing to enroll you kid immeditaly if they can increase the FA to what you can afford as defined in the FC determined by SSS.</p>
<p>FA has been crazy this year.</p>
<p>Please advise me how to do with acceptances with no FA or WL on FA?
Is there any chance to get FA in these situations?</p>
<p>No point in persuing schools that denied FA and you can’t afford it.</p>
<p>You have some life on WL on FA. It all depends on how you plead your case with the FA administrator at specific school. You can tell them you are really interested and like to accept admission immediatly if offered FA or partial FA with exteended payment plan. Try to Negotiate a partial FA at the worst. Depends on your negotiating skills.</p>
<p>Typically cost of living is around $40-$70 per week per family member based on where you live in US. Plus you spend on other EC activities per month for your kid. If you can even afford $300 or $500 per month for your kid that is good, since they feed him/her at BS and take care of all EC, no commuting cost etc for a parent, and the child is assured to get a good education and likely into a good university. You can negotiate $3500 to $5000 per year base on affordibality, since that is what it typically cost you to take care of your child at home and go to a public school. Plus you need to add books, transportation, food cost, movies, transportation (gas) etc into consideration. Getting full FA is very very limted. </p>
<p>And enrollment fees and deposit is also negotiable and some of it can be put on extended plan. Schools like to see some family contribution so they know you are also serious about your kids education.
It is an investment you are making towards the future opportinities for your kid.
Something to consider.</p>
<p>Thanks Newebs a lot for detailed reply.
My PFS says EFC is about $5k & we can a bit more. However, some schools did not give any FA at all, though they accepted my kid. Do you think they still have enough funds to meet this need?</p>
<p>Talk to them and see if BS is willing to re-consider FA with their accepatance.</p>
<p>The issue is schools that don’t offer FA want you to pay enrollment plus deposit that may be $1500 to $3500 on April 10, depending on which schooll you apply. You may be willing to spend this money yet no guarrantee that they will award any FA later. Why take the risk.</p>
<p>Call the school and tell them you are in a Catch 22 situation. Can’t accept acceptance offer until they award FA.</p>
<p>I think the chance is slim considering you have heavy need. Be preapred to reapply next year. Strengthen your profile, and apply to a wide range of schools. Learn from neatoburriton if you need to. :)</p>
<p>I agee with Benley.</p>
<p>Chances of you getting FA from a school that denied FA is very difficult at this stage.(FA resources is very tight this year). As I point out, you may have some life on WL or FA school. You need to persue this asap.</p>
<p>That is the reason we invested our time in applying to quite a few BS (more then dozen) and received acceptance from 70% of the school, no FA or partial FA from a few acceptances and got very favorable response from 3 schools regards to FA.</p>
<p>Napviet</p>
<p>9th grade has most opening at any BS. As you go up the grades number of opeings reduce, plus your kids needs to still maintain high grade at current school, go through the recommendation letter, essays, EC process all over again. And you kid needs to re-do the SSAT and obatin higher SSAT score as they apply to 10 & 11 grades.</p>
<p>If you can spend time in working out with a school on FA and enrollment this year, it is less pressure on your kid and parents. Give it your best shot this year before you give up. </p>
<p>(Also FA will be reevaluated next year based on you current income, tax return, W2, etc. Getting in with what you can afford this year is the key)</p>
<p>Thanks Newebs and Benley for advises.
I also feel that would be hard to get FA from schools that accept but give no FA. One school accepts and FA waitlisted, we will contact this school.
We will try our last ditch effort this year as my kid applying as repeating junior.</p>