<p>I've found stats of the student getting into Ivy on this board only reflect perfect stats. I think most students will be interested in stats that are more moderate. So please post if you made into Ivies with the following range.</p>
<p>SAT1 :740 - 780 (with 1 exception i.e out of this range)
SATII : 720 - 780 ( with 1 exception)</p>
<p>GPA: UW - 3.7 - 3.85
W - 4.05 - 4.30 (assuming 0.5 added for Hons or higher classes)</p>
<p>No Legacy
No outstanding Atheletes.
No RSI, Intel, Siemens winners.</p>
<p>Normal Extracurriculur Activities.</p>
<p>Normal Seniors only i.e Human Being not Robots.</p>
<p>My friend was admitted to Princeton ED with those type of stats, with the exception that her brother goes to Princeton.
Also the GPA may be misleading because our HS is really difficult/competitive so her GPA is within those ranges but in the top 5 (last year we had 8 go to Ivies, (18%))</p>
<p>Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post, but those scores fall into the range of the mid 50th percentile at those schools. 780 is quite high, if not perfect. The difference between a 780 and an 800 can be missing one question and even Ivies are aware of that. But even with all 800s, depending on how you define "normal" ECs, that wouldn't be enough. At some point the scores put you in the range but it puts everyone else in the range too, some of whom have outstanding ECs. Great scores without much EC hook isn't generally going to do much good at that level. I would have to know what "normal" entails, plus grades and courses, recommendations, all pretty significant factors for the so called "normal" person (which I take to mean the person who isn't an automatic admit because they already conducted cancer research or something). There's going to have to be something compelling about the ECs though, even if it's not walking on water.</p>
<p>Just to make it more clear. I don't see many posts from students without Legacy or RSI or Intel or Siblings.
I know that Students need to have some EC hooks but not the exceptional hooks. I want to see if there is chance for any normal kids to get into Ivies or not.
On SATII a 760 and 800 has lot of difference e.g. in Math2C there will be at least 10 questions wrong in order to get a 760.
So it will be nice to see some normal student posting the stats showing that there is some possibility otherwise the college discussion board seem a sham.
Because I know if the child get perfect SAT and attend RSI then there is no way any of the top college will reject it.</p>
Because I know if the child get perfect SAT and attend RSI then there is no way any of the top college will reject it.
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All I can really say to this is not always true, every rule has its exceptions so don't go off making generalizations. Also, in terms of the SAT's, the scores are based on ranges because the college board is merely trying to find where a student generally falls or else you should get the same score in every sitting, which you don't. So someone who got a 780 is capable of getting an 800 based on their range.</p>
<p>yeah and generally there has to be an amazing exc, urm status, legacy, atheltics, or money that is the factor that pushes an applicant over to acceptance at an ivy. There will be a few kids who get in without a good exc but those will usually have the 3.9uw's and 2250-2300's. You just dont seem to want to accept the truth about what it takes to get into an ivy.</p>
<p>So in summary you would like to say untill my child gets into RSI or Intel or Siemens or some other extraordinary EC there is no chance to make it into Ivies.
I forsee a score of SAT1 > 2200, SATII's > 750, GPA UW: 3.8 - 3.9 W 4.15 -4.3
with around 8 APs</p>
<p>I don't get what an "extraordinary EC" would be for the humanaties?
RSI, Intel, Siemens, AMC....these are all math and science related opportunities
What does a student who is interested in History, Art History, Art, Psychology, Anthropology, or Sociology do as an amazing EC?
I really need ideas here!</p>
<p>would National History Day (winning 1st place in regionals and states at least 3 years in a row and qualifying for nationals) be considered an "extraordinary EC?"</p>
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What might be a reason to not go to a top college?
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<p>Oh, well, everyone has their own deffinition of "top college."</p>
<p>Back when I was a junior I visited a whole bunch of college (including Yale, Brown, Columbia, Georgetown), but my first choice after all the visits was Brandeis University. Which, while I consider it to be a top college, does not have the same prestige as the other schools I visited.</p>
<p>Its all about fit, where your child would best fit in with the social and academic fabric of the college/university. For some people that is Harvard/Yale/Princeton, for others it is not. That is a decision your child should make.</p>
<p>I turn it back to you, why do you want your child to go to an Ivy League?</p>
<p>And also..think about how many applicants will have stats that u "forsee." If ur kid only has some generic tutoring exc and is part of only a club compared to soemone who is an eagle scout or someone who has a intenrship for a company or is a URM status, why would they choose ur child over the others?</p>
<p>the actual rate of ivy acceptances, or so i've heard from college counselors, is around 5% if the applicant is not legacy, famous, ridiculously rich, an athlete, or did something extraordinary.</p>
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the actual rate of ivy acceptances, or so i've heard from college counselors, is around 5% if the applicant is not legacy, famous, ridiculously rich, an athlete, or did something extraordinary.
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The RD admit rate for HYP is ~6%, so I would assume that number is lower than 5%.</p>
<p>I find this thread incredibly pointless and misinformed. There HAS to be something extraordinary for someone to get accepted into the ivies. If it is not ECs, test-scores, and all of that then it has to be personality and charisma. </p>
<p>"On SATII a 760 and 800 has lot of difference e.g. in Math2C there will be at least 10 questions wrong in order to get a 760."</p>
<p>"I hope so. But yes I really do want my child to go. So I'm nervous.
What might be a reason to not go to a top college?"</p>
<p>you HOPE so??? you're the parent that that is supposed to support whatever your kid wants to do. A top college usually entails hours of hard work. Your kid might want to go to a university that actually suits him and his interests, not whatever university his/her parent dreams of him attending.</p>
<p>"Normal Seniors only i.e Human Being not Robots."</p>
<p>by robots you mean incredibly passionate human beings. Instead of being in awe of their achievements you are contemptuous? You can go vent your anger somewhere else, because quite frankly they deserve it.</p>
<p>yeah. to get into the ivies you got to be a super applicant, not a good applicant. Sorry ParentofIvyhopeful, I dont want to be mean or scrutinize ur child's chances but its just the reality of getting into the ivies nowadays. Theres just too many super applicants where if you dont become one...then chances are you wont become an ivy league studnet</p>
<p>I guess my d must not have enough robot in her. She was accepted to Cornell but did not like it after a visit, and decided to decline.
"You are ruining your life!" I begged and pleaded with her to reconsider.
Just kidding :)
She did get in, and didn't like it, and went somewhere else, but that was OK with me.</p>
<p>This is not the way to look at this. The issue is that there is never, regardless of anything you hear, ANY guaranteed admit to any selective college. The way to handle this is to let your daughter find her own interests, develop them, and feel excited at the prospect of doing something related to her interests. She will find colleges that suit her interests, and she will most likely get into them. What's the issue?</p>
<p>parentofivyhope..chill out and let your kid have a life. and get a hobby, i dont think parents should be living vicariously through their children.</p>
<p>sorry if thats harsh, but i bet you're harsh on your son when he doesnt ace a test so im not sweatin it.</p>