Posting Pictures

<p>That is so funny lol. </p>

<p>I'm not going to be at Chicago unifieds being that I live in NY.....I will be at:</p>

<p>michigan (assuming i get an audition)
syracuse
ithaca
baldwin wallace
cmu
emerson</p>

<p>and a few others at the NY unifieds</p>

<p>umm...dont have photo bucket...but heres my myspace...photos on there...ill be at the november 18th michigan auditions...and at the november 12th ed dance portion optional mt auditions in NY at NYU...</p>

<p>I posted something in the thread I started before reading this one...tell Scarlett that Grant says hello!!!</p>

<p>And if you didn't read my last post in the other thread, I am at the Harrison School for the Arts in Lakeland, FL, with four other MT majors from NOCCA and one dance major.</p>

<p>Chrisnoo,</p>

<p>Check out Meredith's pic on this thread. She will also be at UM audition Nov 18. She was also at UM this summer in their MT program.</p>

<p>Good luck at the audition!
xx,Mary Anna</p>

<p>awesome...ill look for meredith...and maybe ill see some of yall at unifieds in chicago...(sorry to sound mean, but hopefully not, since my top two choices ill know before unifieds)...but if i do end up seeing you all, that would be awesome!</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses to the head shots and the number of hits here shows how much interest we have in one another.</p>

<p>Because of the concern expressed by others as to the safety of showing pictures, I will continue to post head shots as I have them, but limit my information on the students.</p>

<p>If you have an interest in in meeting up at an audition or offering support, please PM or email me for more details.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Good luck to all,
xxx,Mary Anna</p>

<p>I am going to ask all posters to not post a student's name and photo on the forum. As a parent myself, I would not do that and I am even more uncomfortable for a teacher to do that. Do the students and parents know that this information of their names and photos are being posted here? </p>

<p>Regardless, this is not a good idea for many reasons. One is that the posting rules stipulate not posting links to personal sites. While this is not a link to a personal site, it is somewhat similar. I also do not think it is the safest practice to post the child's real name and photo on this public forum read by many lurkers. I don't even see any benefit to doing so. </p>

<p>As far as meeting up at auditions, what was done other years on this forum is still an excellent avenue. Simply discuss on here using your posting name, which auditions you are going to or which schools you are applying to (if you don't wish to share specific dates) and then people can contact one another through either PMs or e-mails to share names, photos or to make specific arrangements to meet up. It works just fine that way and is a safer practice. Another way which is still public but not as public as the posts is you can list your homepage in your CC profile and if someone clicks on your name, they can find how to get to your homepage. The best way to share personal identifying information and photos, however, is with those you have been some "relationship" with online and trust and through PM and e-mail. Please use that method. </p>

<p>If you want to post pictures of some production without kids' names or identifying information, that is one thing but posting names and photos are best left to private sharing or at least being put in the profile. You can easily connect at auditions via these safer methods. I know parents in the past from CC met up at auditions and never resorted to sharing their real names or photos on the boards. It can be done. In fact, I don't even think they shared photos privately but figured out ways to meet up at auditions. </p>

<p>Keep sharing your experiences online. Tell about your auditions or which posters (using posting names) you met along the way. Please keep childrens' names and photos off the posts and share those in PMs, e-mails, or in the profile. </p>

<p>Many parents on here are getting uncomfortable with this new posting of names and photos of students and where they are applying. It is better to just post and say ,"I have several students applying to BFA programs. Some will be at the upcoming one on such and such date at such and such school. If anyone else is going to be there and would like to meet up, contact me." Then share the personal details. The same results will occur but in a safer way, as well as make the other parents on here more comfortable. If the parents of the students whose photos and names are being posted here wish to contact me about this with any questions about our stance on this, they may do so.</p>

<p>Thank you all for understanding. </p>

<p>CollegeMom</p>

<p>CollegeMom - Thanks, and I agree. I've got a whole network of CC friends with whom we are getting together at several auditions, none of which are formally posted on the CC public forum. It is very exciting to us to have so many good friends through our Internet resources. You all are better friends than anyone we know, simply because you are going through the same process as us, and no one else really understands.</p>

<p>I would like to comment on everyone getting so upset and paranoid over the posting of pics on this thread. First of all this person is a highly respected teacher where she lives and happened to be my D’s acting coach last year for her college auditions. She would NEVER post pics without permission whatsoever and I know for a fact she does have permission. I have not seen any last names, hotels mentioned or any information to make it possible to track down these kids in the first place. Personally, I love the idea of someone’s face on there as many of these kids have reunited because of this and now can email each other and discuss upcoming auditions by PM. Do you realize how many of us crossed paths but never got to meet each other in the past because there was no way of knowing who was who without a face? I doubt it very seriously that anyone “lurks” on this board to find people and if someone does, it would be pretty hard to find these kids based on only a pic and a first name. Anyway, this is just my opinion and I hate to see someone being crucified for just trying to make something fun for everyone and having good intentions. One other thing.... she is not posting YOUR kids pic. She asked clearly at the beginning of the post if it was against the rules of the board and no one seemed to speak up, but actually seemed to think it was kinda neat. If it is not your kids picture, why are you uncomfortable with it? Personally, I feel it is a great way to showcase someone as several colleges frequent this board, and have responded possitive to her by PM about her students.</p>

<p>Whoa Sissy!</p>

<p>I don't think anyone here "crucified Mary Anna. She has been and continues to be a valued and respected member of this forum. And while I also enjoyed the absolutely beautiful pictures of her students, I felt uneasy about the posting of such personal information. It is why many of us don't even use our own names and certainly don't use our children's names in our posts. I would never consider this precaution "paranoid." With the proliferation of internet sites where kids post information and share pictures, it is frighteningly easy to connect the dots and gather more information about individuals than you can imagine. I wish we lived in a world where everyone had the best interests of others at heart, but unfortunately that is not the case. Lurkers DO exist and I believe the policy of College Confidential as described by College Mom is designed to protect our kids, to, as they say "err on the side" of caution and safety. As she has detailed, if people want to connect at auditions, this policy does nothing to prohibit that. Posters can still share information and even pictures if they like by emailing those with whom they have established a trusting relationship. Despite the participation of several college administrators and faculty on CC, having your child's picture on this site will not help him or her in the college audition/admission process one bit. If it's broader exposure you want, perhaps the suggestion of creating a homepage and listing in your CC profile is the way to go.</p>

<p>No one is upset with Mary Anna. She clearly is devoted to the welfare of her students, the kind of devotion I believe that all the folks at CC share for these kids. I, for one, am grateful for the concern shown by the moderators of this forum and willingly post here in large part because it has always felt safe to do so.</p>

<p>I want to make it very clear that our intentions here are certainly NOT meant to "crucify" Mary Anna or anyone else who chose to post their names/photos. In fact, Mary Anna is a valued poster. She has much to offer and from the perspective of an acting teacher. I am CERTAIN her intentions were positive ones. </p>

<p>There is nothing to be accomplished in terms of hooking up at auditions based on posting names and photos. That same thing can be accomplished by posting that you are going to the auditions at certain schools or dates (or your students will be) and then inviting others to connect with you to exchange names, photos, any other personal information in PMs and emails. The only other thing then I can think of is promotion and these forums are not for that. You can put your information in your profile as another way to do that. </p>

<p>Also, to think that there are not a lot of LURKERS on the forum is simply not true. Just look at how many hits each thread receives compared to the number who post on it. As one of you said, some college reps contacted Mary Anna about her students through PM so they must have read this forum. Those are great lurkers ;-). But we all know that the internet has all kinds of lurkers. You may notice that the majority of posters have a "posting name" and even if they use their real name, they tend not to use their child's real name. </p>

<p>In any case, our terms of service state not to post links to personal sites and this is not that different. This is really meant to be a discussion board, not a place to post headshots. </p>

<p>We do encourage the wonderful connections made on CC that often do result in personal exhanges off the forum, as well as meeting up in person not only at auditions, but in many other ways. People have done that a LOT on here and it was all possible without posting the names and photos on the message board itself. </p>

<p>I understand those parents gave permission but that is beside the point. We are just requesting to not post headshots with names but to share them amongst yourselves in the private messaging system we have set up for things of that sort when you don't want to post publicly such personal identifying information, particularly with regard to children. </p>

<p>Please be aware that many posters were concerned and contacted me and/or posted here about warnings to kids about doing this, as well as CC's own take on this matter. I hope you will understand and continue your support.</p>

<p>This request I made today is not aimed at any particular poster. We really value every poster here. So, please keep posting even if you do not understand this rule. We want you here.</p>

<p>I totally understand. I just wanted to get a point across that Mary Anna did this with good intentions and people were starting to get a little upset over this as if they couldn't believe someone would even think of posting a pic. In the beginning someone should have responded immediately it was not acceptable to post pics on here. That's all.</p>

<p>Hello to all. It has been awhile since I had a chance to hit the boards and see what was going on. I am really surprised by this thread in particular. It is certainly everyone's personal choice whether to share information or not about themselves and/or their children. What I find most compelling is that this topic would be so new to everyone. Our children have chosen a professional which intentionally thrust them into the public eye. They want nothing more than to be center stage with their name and face plastered as many places as possible. In fact, this is their dream. Unfortunately, with every profession, there is a downside. One here is having to deal with the negative attention and the subset of society that reacts inappropriately to this exposure. Does everyone realize that if your child has been doing shows at school or especially at community theater, that they have already been far more exposed than what posting pictures on this website would do? Do they have headshots, press photos, videos, names in programs talking about what they have done, where they go to shcool? If you have not already had your child coached on these issues, do it now. My S and D are approached all of the time after shows for autographs, fans who loved the show and wanted to meet them, people who approach them because they feel that they "know" them when my children have never met them. I started at a very young age talking about how to handle the public attention. I would like to add that that included how to handle sexual advances from both sexes. (Reality check parents.. the theater is a bohemian place!) For many of us our "children" are no longer such. My D is 18 years old, legally she is an adult in many respects. She spent 6 weeks in New York at CAP21 without parental supervision. She is going to college for 4 years without me. I am counting on her preparation in dealing with people and general safety lessons to serve her well. Finally I would like to remind everyone that there is little privacy in our society these days. I work in a field that allows full access to people's information, governed by privacy laws surely. But you would be shocked to know what information is available on you and your family in the "public domain". Do a "google" search on your high school's show and more than likely any photos that were taken by audience or professionals is going to pop up somewhere. I really think this thread needs to return to those that choose to post pictures and want to "show their face" then let them. Others that choose not to that is fine too. Peace out...as the kids say.</p>

<p>Thank you for being the voice of reason, NOCCAMom. I think people were getting a bit carried away on this topic. The link I used to post my headshot is from a theatre I worked at VERY briefly over two years ago! I never even got to do the show I'm credited as doing because a family emergency sprung up and I had to leave the country. Yet my headshot is still on their website, and I googled it, and so I thought, what's the harm in posting the link to an existing website that I didn't even create? Right? Besides, I'm impossible to track down, because I move around so much, so I know I'm pretty much safe from any possible crazies that may or may not be lurking on these boards. Personally, I don't think crazies would want to lurk on this particular board. But that's just my opinion. And, like NOCCAMom said, it's just a picture and a first name. You can get the same thing from most people's MSN profiles, or MySpace accounts, or even from theatre company websites that they've performed in. (In most of those, you can get last names, too.) My sister has had a very detailed MySpace account for years, and nothing like what you're afraid of has happened. It's nothing to have a controversy over, and people who want to post pictures should just use their common sense. Everybody's happy.</p>

<p>In short, a picture ain't no thang. Don't worry so much!</p>

<p>I am a parent and am fully aware of kids being in the public eye and being on the internet even if you do not place their names and photos there yourself. I have "googled" my kids' names and have found many articles and sites that mention them. As well, if you have a kid in something like theater, then their name is "out there". That is not the issue here. This is a website where we set the rules. We do not want links to personal websites or posting of kids' headshots on this message board. You can choose to have a link to your personal page, if you so choose, in your profile and people can access that when they click on your posting name. </p>

<p>I am now getting a better sense of the reason behind the posting of names and headshots. At first it appeared merely as a way to connect with other kids at auditions. But I, and others, have explained that that can be accomplished (as it was in years past by others on this forum) by mentioning which schools or auditions you are attending and then taking the personal specifics to PM and email. Since that "method" exists, then what is the problem? But now I see mention of "promotion" or " their name and face plastered as many places as possible" or "showcasing students" or "exposure". This message board, however, is not for that purpose. It is not meant for promotion. It is meant for sharing about college topics. There are many websites out there where you can promote yourself, list your headshot and resume, and what not. This site is not one of them. I am feeling that THAT is the issue here because otherwise, nobody would object to not being able to put their name and photo on the site with the objective being to meet up at auditions because that objective can be met other ways, as explained. </p>

<p>In any case, it is also against the Terms of Service to question moderators' actions. We set the rules and take the actions. You choose whether or not to participate based on those parameters. This message board is a free service and meant to be a RESOURCE to those navigating the college admissions quagmire. It is not the appropriate site to use for getting your kid's name and headshot out there. It is a good place for connecting with others and we provide Private Messaging for instances when people want to exchange names, phone numbers, personal photos and that sort of thing. </p>

<p>CollegeMom</p>

<p>Obviously my point was missed. Let's move on. Remove this thread from the board and focus on other issues. I anyone would like to trade pics and info please contact me privately.</p>

<p>Wow...what a heavy duty message. I went back to double check and the person that started this thread asked if pics could be posted. I think that was the time to say no and not a few weeks after the fact. I am all for this web site to be a positive safe environment FOR ALL.</p>

<p>This is a picture of Greg Poggi, head of theatre department at Univeristy of Michigan. This is on the UM web site along with his bio if anyone is interested in reading more</p>

<p><a href="http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/maryannadennard/Poggi.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/maryannadennard/Poggi.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Hope you don't mind the "tag team" effort on Greg Poggi, Mary Anna. Here's the link to the UM website you referred to:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.music.umich.edu/faculty_staff/poggi.gregory.lasso%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.music.umich.edu/faculty_staff/poggi.gregory.lasso&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>