Pre-Business Math 1B at FPF or Math 16B Spring at Cal?

<p>I plan on getting a 5 on the Calc B/C AP test next week and fulfilling the Math 1A/16A requirement for Haas. For the second half of the Haas calculus requirement, I've heard that Math 1B is significantly harder than Math 16B, and that if my backup major only requires the 16 series to take that indefinitely. My backup major for Haas is econ, which does accept the 16 series, but FPF only offers 1B and not 16B. Should I wait until Spring to take 16B on campus? I have also heard from some that 1B at FPF is far easier than it is on campus, while I have heard from others that it's just as brutal. Also, if I wait until Spring to do 16B, my entire first semester will be all breadth courses (planning on getting a 5 on Lit to fulfill R1B; 5 on Language last year fulfilled R1A), would that be a bad idea? What would be the most logical choices? From what I've heard Haas doesn't care whether you take the "1" series or the "16" series, as long as you get a good GPA.</p>

<p>With a 5 on AP Calculus BC, you can also take Math 53 or 54, according to the [Math</a> department](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html]Math”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html). Haas accepts either as fulfilling its Math requirement, and it may give you more options if you decide to do a major that requires more Math (e.g. Economics with the “more math” versions of the courses, which may be helpful if you want to go to graduate school in Economics, or go into a quantitative finance or actuarial job or career).</p>

<p>However, neither Math 53 nor Math 54 is offered in FPF, so you have to wait until spring to take it.</p>

<p>Yeah, if you do get a 5 on the BC test, you would be satisfying both semesters of the math requirement.</p>

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<p>For some odd reason, [Haas</a> accepts a 5 on AP Calculus BC for only Math 1A or 16A](<a href=“Application Process - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas”>Application Process - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas), even though the [Math</a> department accepts it for Math 1A and 1B](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html]Math”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html).</p>

<p>However, since Haas also accepts Math 53 or 54 to fulfill its math requirement, a pre-business student with a 5 on AP Calculus BC can follow the Math department and take Math 53 or 54 and still fulfill Haas’ math requirement. Since the student comes to Berkeley to learn something new, this is likely a better route than wasting a course repeating what s/he already knows.</p>

<p>I was aware I could take 53 or 54 to fulfill the requirement, but from what I’ve seen 16B fulfills the requirements for both Haas and econ. I’m a little unsure of what you mean about taking 53 or 54 in regards to econ. Am I wrong in the assumption that 16B is the farthest math required for econ? I’m definitely all for learning something new, but if the fields I’m looking into only require the calculus taught in 16B, I’d rather take that as a review so I can focus on the other important prerequisite classes that would be far less familiar to me.</p>

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<p>The Economics department offers “more math” (Math 53 and 54) and “less math” (Math 16B) versions of some [Economics</a> courses](<a href=“http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_list_crse_req?p_dept_name=Economics&p_dept_cd=ECON]Economics”>http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_list_crse_req?p_dept_name=Economics&p_dept_cd=ECON). The main ones are 101A/101B/141 (“more math”) versus 100A/100B/140 (“less math”). Optional Economics courses requiring “more math” include C103 and 104.</p>

<p>Note that [“Students</a> planning to do graduate work in economics are urged to take more quantitative courses in economics.”](<a href=“http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_view_req?p_dept_cd=ECON]"Students”>http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_view_req?p_dept_cd=ECON) Also, quantitative finance and actuarial careers require a lot more math than Math 16B.</p>

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<p>If you get a 5 on AP Calculus BC, you are good at math, so you will probably find Math 16B to be an uninteresting waste of time and fee/tuition money.</p>