<p>How does the biological sciences program in cornell compare to other colleges, like uc berkeley or ucla?</p>
<p>well, cornell graduates' med school admissions rate is 89% for those with a 3.4+ GPA, versus 50% nationally, so they must be doing pretty well</p>
<p>according to the finaid brochure from Case for Cornell, Acceptance rate for Cornell students who applied to med school: 76%, and that's admitted to at least one (just 1?) US school of medicine. National average acceptance rate is 50, but what about state Us like U of Arizona , ranked 99th on US News, I couldn't find anything on their web. So the ivy league big name of "CORNELL" helps some at med school admissions?</p>
<p>biological sciences... a very difficult major at cornell, would you say?</p>
<p>ppl, plz brain storm or freely comment on cornell majors, Cornell engineering of course is top TEN nationally, very good, even better ranking than cornell itself, overall. what about other science majors? Easy majors? (not that i want to take the easy way, but for curiosity's sakes etc. )</p>
<p>If you're premed, you can major in anything you want. I'm sure just about anything would be easier than bio or engineering.</p>
<p>heh, lets see, we have the #1 arche school in the US, the #1 hotel school in the world, and the #1 school of engineering in the IVY. my major, HD is ONLY offered at cornell out of all the ivies (even for GRADUATES, let alone as an undergrad major) so i'll have to say it's #1 by default. and of course, cornell is very known for the hard sciences, so how is it that we are shabby? that's only in the minds of high school students and their parents and a few bitter people. </p>
<p>all majors to be successful in should require at least a little if not a lot of passion just to get through it. there are probably a few classes you HAVE to take in every major that you just have to grin and bear it, but otherwise, the rest of the classes you can take that will fit your concentration, and that interest you. like sometime earlier, i mentioned taking anthrolopology of human mating because i was interested in that. and yes, it can be a little intense, but really, i would read material for that class anyday over orgo for example. that's why i naturally do better in the former class. i mean, getting to learn about initiation rituals of babies around the world is so fascinating, like in this one culture, in order for a baby to be consider human, the parents have to have sex with the baby lying on the mother's stomach, and then she has to take the semen and vaginal fluid and smear it on the baby. it's stuff like this that makes me want to read on because other cultures traditions are very cool</p>
<p>btw, there was a 4 year old that has been pregnant, but it was in the section of why babies head are just big enough to fit through the females pelvis (no more room like in other primates, that's why birthing is so difficult for humans) and obviously her pelvis wasn't developed/widen enough, so they had to perform a C section on her. anywho, anyone who's going to be here next tuesday or thursday morning, i highly HIGHLY recommend going to that class with me and check it out. it's worth it to get out of bed at 8:40. especially thursday, we are learning about female orgasm (tuesday's about fossils)</p>
<p>sounds like an interesting class, fun classes are always welcome, I'd like to get the bachelor's degree with ease within reason, but hard work is of course very necessary to good educational development. </p>
<p>other suggestions? I understand a premed student does not have to take the science majors like bio or biochem , what are some other cool majors at cornell?</p>
<p>i recommend biochem at cornell, especially autotutorial or NS 320: human biochem for the MCATs and a few med schools require it.</p>
<p>autotutorial courses? I've done an independent study and self-taught foreign language course in hs, by autotutorial, do you mean you can teach the course yourself, along with a supervising professor maybe? Introductory courses are necessary , right? </p>
<p>I've seen on the C board somewhere about introductory course like Bio lecture are pretty difficult, with hundreds of students cramming in a lecture hall, and B is pretty much all you can get, because of curves? what about lab courses like bio lab,, are introductory courses necessary evils we have to go through?</p>
<p>Um, how does Cornell pre-med stack up against other ivies and top schools such as Harvard, Columbia, Princeton, Stanford, Yale, UC Berkeley...</p>
<p>I mean undergrad btw</p>
<p>Yes, that's what i'm interested in too--- Cornell undergraduate pre-med track.</p>
<p>up up on sinbad's . is it much superior to the public universities' ? Like U of Arizona, U of Texas etc.? Worth the work, time, effort, money? If say I apply to 20 medical schools (mostly top medical schools) with cornell gpa in biological sciences of like 3.0 to 3.5, with MCAT 30 to 35 points, , will I almost be guaranteed of more than one med school admission?? </p>
<p>okay, which one beats which? cornell: 3.0-3.5 gpa, MCAT 30 - 35
U of Arizona : 3.75-4.0 gpa, MCAT 30-35
with all other extracurricular activities and research approximately equal. .</p>
<p>Most schools don't release their med schools acceptance figures. A few (like Cornell, Princeton, Berkeley, MIT, etc.) do and you can find them on their career services sites. I would view the statistics with extreme caution though since they can be easily manipulated. Just about any school with a 90% acceptance rate into med school screens its applicants (which means they don't allow certain people who they feel is unworthy to apply to med school and refuse to write recommendations for them). Cornell does not do this. I'm guessing neither does UC Berkeley since it's acceptance rate is only slightly above the national average.</p>
<p>norcalguy, you bet most schools don't release med school admission rates, i searched for at least an hour on UA website and couldn't find anything, so i suppose they don't do well than the 50% figure nationally, cornell's 76-8 % is thus very good in comparison, especially with 3.4+ gpa's 89% acceptance rate. </p>
<p>Thank god Cornell does not weed out "unfit" premeds, not like some JHU (maybe it's another top uni) stuff they pull and premeds really have to be on top of each other or the other kid would each his competitor(s) for lunch . .</p>
<p>sorry lots of misspellings in the above post, but hope you guys figured it out. Generous Cornell, if the no-screening premeds policy is correct, then cornell must be extremely strong to be able to maintain such a high percentage of high 70% for all and nearly 90% for 3.4+'s</p>
<p>According to their respective sites:</p>
<p>Princeton has an acceptance rate of around 90%, Cornell 77%, MIT 77%, Berkeley (from 1999-2003)-59%</p>
<p>cornell's is 89 if you have a 3.4 or better GPA though. If you intend to work hard enough to do med school, you should be able to manage a 3.4</p>
<p>does cornell weed out the pre-meds? so even though they dont "screen" applicants, do they still encourage them to switch degree plans or unofficially force them to change due to the high pressure? on that same note, is cornell still bad about the suicides?</p>
<p>Yes, I was going to get to this point but you beat me to it. Cornell is self-selective as is any premed pool at any school. Courses like orgo are difficult at any college as a way to weed out premeds.</p>
<p>Cornell was never "bad" with suicides. I'd put that as the #1 myth about Cornell. Cornell's suicide rate is way below the national average.</p>
<p>it's just because if someone jumped the gorge, everyone who walks by that bridge would know it w/all the search and rescue. at another school, they would do it quietly in their rooms and not many would see it. that's why there's so much publicity. we are actually the same as the national average, which should statistically come out to 2 students/yr</p>