Pre-med at Michigan

<p>Is U of M a good school for pre-medical students? </p>

<p>Do they assist you with getting admission into medical school? </p>

<p>Are counselors easily approachable and willing to assist in your preperation for medicine? </p>

<p>Are medically related activities easily available in terms of research, volunteer, and exposure? </p>

<p>I am considering a variety of schools for the pre-medical tract and am curious as to what advice other pre-med students at michigan have about their experience at the school and wheter going to Michigan is the correct choice.</p>

<p>These are good questions that I also want answers to. Somebody?</p>

<p>Bump.............</p>

<p>Michigan is bad for premed, the premed acceptance rate is about 65%. Nationally, there are more people getting in med school from Michigan undergrad than anywhere else, but Michigan also has the largest number of undergrads. I went to the Michigan career center last term to check out the stats of accepted people at various medical schools. There were a number of people with 3.7 GPA and 32 MCAT who didn't get in any medical school. </p>

<p>Michigan offers you very little advantage in getting into medical school, the name counts very little compared to the disadvantages. U'll be facing people from local city colleges with 4.0 GPA, which is far easier than getting a 3.5 at Michigan. If they have the same MCAT, med school will take the 4.0 guy over you given that u have the same ECs, and recs. </p>

<p>Also, getting good recs will be harder at Michigan, a lot of lecture style classes, and too many smart people for you to standout. I honestly think the best route if you could, is apply to those accelerated medical programs(6 or 7 years), these programs are much easier if u have the GPA and SAT coming out of high school. Some of them are not hard to get into, I know Sophie Davis in NYC is pretty easy to get into. or goto a easy college and get good grades.</p>

<p>let's keep this in perspective- NYao absolutely HATES the U of M so anything s/he says is a pessimistic stretch.</p>

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<p>NYao isn't even posting accurate statstics. There are plenty schools in this country with more undergrads than Michigan (Ohio St, Penn St, and MSU come to mind immediately).</p>

<p>whew.........Nyao was really scaring me because I love Michigan but if its not good for pre-medical students then I feel like i shouldnt attend next year.</p>

<p>u guys are *<strong><em>heads, i look at my comment, did i say anything remotely as biased as what u are saying, in real life, i'd already *</em></strong>ed you up.</p>

<p>wow people, CHILL OUT, hahaha</p>

<p>and btw, I am a premed and yes this place is hard as hell so NYao has a pt to some degree, you can't totally throw everything (he/she?) has to say out the window. </p>

<p>Anyways, basically you gotta work your brains out as usual lol, whats new? </p>

<p>Disadvantages: big ass classes, everyone around you who is a premed is so frickin competitive it can really bug the crap out of you sometimes. Oh and the obvious, everything is so HARD, hahaha</p>

<p>Advantages: PLENTY and I will say that again, PLENTY of opportunities to get recommendations and do research and get involved in medically related activities and what not. If you try hard enough, you will do well here.</p>

<p>Oh and with that whole people with 32 mcats, 3.7GPA's from UM still being rejected. I can promise you like a million people with those stats probably got rejected 2. It's more than grades. Maybe they didn't show well enough WHY they wanted to become a doc and didn't show their enthusiasm/dilligence or w/e. Maybe they f'ed up the interview, who knows. </p>

<p>needless to say, yes michigan is hard and yes, if all you're focused on is taking the easiest path to medicine, then yes michigan is not for you. BUT, it is not so bad as NYao made it out to be...although some good pts were made</p>

<p>so which of these schools do u guys suggest as best for pre-med:
University of Michigan, Northwestern University, or Brown University? </p>

<p>I'm very much slated to go 2 U of M because it is affordable, close to home, and a great school. Also, as umar Mich offers many medically related extracurriculars. But if ultimately U of M prevents me from getting into a good medical school then I may not want 2 choose it.</p>

<p>Those three schools are excellent. I would not chose a university purely based on which school has the best medical school placement rate. The fact is, many pre-meds never end up applying to med school because they change their minds and decide to go into another field. I would pick a school based on fit, and all three schools you mention have excellent undergraduate feels.</p>

<p>According to the Association of American Medical Colleges, U-M is among the top 3 in producing medical school applicants, along with UCLA and UC-Berkeley.</p>

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<p>A quick total of the racial/ethnic categories, UCLA is first with U-M/UC-Berkeley in second and third. (I started to sum up al the categories but wasn't sure whether the Hispanic category already included Mexican-American and Puerto Ricans.)</p>

<p>UCLA, U-M, and UC-Berkeley may not have the highest acceptance rates like the HYPS, but they have the numbers.</p>

<p>well thats the question m1817......i know a lot of pre-med kids at U of M but that doesnt mean they all get accepted. Im wondering if doing pre-med at michigan is the best choice?</p>

<p>Also, some consider pre-med here hard, others do not. I know a guy who doesn't go to Orgo EVER and has gotten above a 95% on every test. He does no homework, occassionally reads the book, and just dominates. What is hard for some is easy for others, it just depends what level you're at. Umar's perspective is just one of many. Many would claim pre-med is easy, and for those who know, it's much easier than many other concentrations (honors math, for example). I say this because the aforementioned student is about average in the honors math sequence, but is considered a star when he takes courses like orgo.</p>

<p>There is no such thing as a "best choice" for pre-med. Students who are academically inclined and driven have excellent chances of getting into a choice medical school out of Michigan.</p>

<p>Brown is your best choice. Northwestern should be a distant second. Brown has a good amount of grade inflation so it should help your cause. </p>

<p>You can get in medical school from anywhere. My point is, to maximize your chances. My best friend's brother went to bronx science high school(NY), top 1%, had a 1570 on his SAT, intel semi-finalist, got in Harvard and MIT, chose MIT with an intention of going to med school, he graduated MIT with a 3.1 GPA in Bio/Chem. didn't get in any med school, he's doing some post-bac program now at some no name TTT trying to get in SUNY-Downstate or something. </p>

<p>CUNY-Queens college is one of the best in NY in sending people to medical school. You have to be virtually braindead to not get in to this college. I took a premed chemistry class here during a summer session, it is literally retarded. I'm fairly certain that My friend's brother would have gotten into a medical school had he attended here.</p>

<p>NYao, sounds like your best friend's brother is one of the MIT students referenced in #3 of the the following thread:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=19444&page=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=19444&page=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If you are suggesting that people who want to go med school go to a pre-med program where they are "are clearly better than the average student, such that they will be able to dominate in their classes", you have a good point. However, I would image that most high school seniors that have credentials like your best friend's brother feel that they can dominate until they go to a college where everyone else is as qualified as they are.</p>

<p>... or he was just trying to go to the school where he would learn the most and be pushed to do well but was screwed by the system.</p>

<p>thats why we are here, to inform people that they probably won't dominate in college like they did in high school. </p>

<p>u can goto a no-name school and learn just as much as someone at a prestigious school. a school like michigan has no regard for each student to do well, the school is too big, it is one normal distribution and thats all they care about. I would imagine classes at MIT are fast paced, u could be a slow learner and need the extra time for the basic stuff, which you could get at a smaller and weaker school.
sometimes, i take my engineering exams and it feels like an intelligence exam, college exams should not be that way.</p>