Pre-med at MIT compare to other top schools HYPS

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But it is not possible to get the numbers from HYPS which are so readily available from MIT. That actually put doubts on your claims.

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<p>Just wait for the Internet Archive to come back. Have patience. It’s not my fault the Archive is down. I don’t run their website. </p>

<p>Or, in the mean time, read the discussion between cellardweller and I, where I presented the data (when the Archive was functional), and he read it and accepted it as valid (although he still disagreed with the conclusion). </p>

<p>If you still don’t believe me, and really insist on seeing the data, then fine. I will happily raise the stakes. Get a Harvard undergrad to go to their premed advisor and examine the books for you. The data is available, it’s just not available to the public, but surely you can find somebody at Harvard who is willing to look up the data for you, and they will report whether the admit rate is better than MIT’s or not. If they report that it is not, then I will happily come back here and say that I was wrong. </p>

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Except MIT applicants display very little self-selection and are still outperforming the national average. 140 out of 190 students applied to Harvard. Heck even 71 students applied to UCLA. I’m willing to bet a lot of those applicants weren’t even CA applicants. To have a 12% acceptance rate to Harvard when nearly all of your premeds are applying is impressive no matter how you slice and dice it.

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<p>Impressive compared to the average school? Of course! MIT is clearly better than the average school. </p>

<p>The real question is, whether MIT compares well to places like HYPS. Like I said, wait for the Archive to get fixed. Or, in the mean time, read the dispute between me and cellerdweller, where we actually analyzed who had the better premed “success rate”, an argument which I believe I won, although you are free to make your own determination. </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/541176-so-pre-med-mit-pretty-much-impossible-4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/massachusetts-institute-technology/541176-so-pre-med-mit-pretty-much-impossible-4.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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The only other school that I know of that releases data in this format is Berkeley. Note the much lower applicant numbers (despite a much higher number of total students and med school applicants). Despite the self-selection, Berkeley applicants still fair worse at top med schools.</p>

<p>Career Center - Medical School Statistics

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<p>Well, we’re not comparing MIT to Berkeley now, are we? As you know, I have written many a post decrying the (relatively) hapless state of Berkeley premed.</p>