<p>Pretty much all of these schools are good for pre-med. But I will tell you that LA's bio classes are wayyy more interesting than UCI's, and I'm guessing that la's biomedical research is better than UCI, given that their med school is ranked higher than irvine. Not too sure about Davis though as I don't know anyone who went there for bio.</p>
<p>What are the class size of most popular lower division science classes?</p>
<p>I meant at UCLA.</p>
<p>Usually from 300-400+ at both UCI and UCLA, with Chemistry classes having more students than bio classes since chem majors are there as well.</p>
<p>i donno about the 30 series (ochem), but the 20series chem (g chem) is much harder at UCLA than it is at UCI (whatever their gchem series is)...just by comparing my material with my friends...</p>
<p>If you have priority enrollment, would it help you getting lower division science classes at UCLA?</p>
<p>Difficulty of a course is relative: to both the professor teaching it, and the students learning it. I can say that UCLA professors are typically better than other UC profs, and UCLA students are typically more intelligent in sciences than other UC students. Mind you, this is a broad stroke, and there will be instances where this statement is not true, but on the whole, a brighter science student getting accepted to UCLA and UCI will choose LA. </p>
<p>That means that you are competing against brighter individuals in curved courses (can't recall which were curved, and which were not), labwork, and volunteer hours at UCLA Med. But just having the best hospital facility on site is a HUGE advantage over any other PreMed school.</p>
<p>yes it will definitely help you get into lower divs especially if they are out of series (taken during a quarter when the class is not usually taken) because out of series classes fill super fast.</p>
<p>14 A, B, and BL = your year of G-chem + lab
14 C, D, and CL = year of ochem with lab</p>
<p>lol @ 14DL deuces</p>
<p>other schools have labs built in with the courses so they do a little bit of lab each quarter for 3 quarters (i think), but here its just one quarter straight lab.</p>
<p>(oops). hahahha</p>
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Pretty much all of these schools are good for pre-med. But I will tell you that LA's bio classes are wayyy more interesting than UCI's, and I'm guessing that la's biomedical research is better than UCI, given that their med school is ranked higher than irvine. Not too sure about Davis though as I don't know anyone who went there for bio.
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<p>This is problematic thinking. General biology is supposed to be about general biology, not specifically medicine.</p>
<p>I find it really annoying when premeds think their general biology requirements should be catered towards premedical interests, and they seem to forget that it is GENERAL biology. General biology should be (or should remain) geared towards the biology major who intends to study for biology for biology-sake as opposed to people who are just taking it for health professional school.</p>
<p>Was I not talking about research? You assumed I was talking about classes, and turned it into your own rant. Read my post again.</p>
<p>dasherwinator - you are only half right. Alittle bit less than half of UCLA pre meds and more than half of all the complete science majors will take the Chem 20 series as opposed to the Chem 14 series which only goes through the MCAT material. After that, those 20 series kids will take Chem 30 A,B,C, AL,BL,CL. Chem 20 A,B,L is a fully loaded year of Chemistry and Chem 30A,B,C,AL,BL,CL is organic and is probably at the same difficulty, if not harder than UCI's 51A,B,C,LA,LB,LC. In fact, UCLA's Chem 30CL goes further than UCI's 51 Lab series since Chem 51LB+LC combined only give you credit for Chem 30BL when transferring units.</p>
<p>lol...ucla isn't that hard for premed. you guys saying that it's hard are overexaggerating. if you study, i would say ucla premed courses are of average difficulty.</p>
<p>honestly, do not take into consideration "difficulty" level when you make your decision on which UC to attend. Just go where you'll be the happiest. You'll need to study HARD wherever you go, and if you study HARD, you'll do well wherever you go.</p>
<p>^^^ hahaha if you study hard youll always do well?</p>
<p>lul</p>
<p>Hahaha, yeah I agree with ya zzzboy. It's not necessarily about studying hard, but studying hard the right way...Some people are just not test people, but do better in the real-life situation.</p>
<p>lol not even some people just study and fail =(. truly a sad thing to see.</p>
<p>The perception is this: UCLA is more competitive and it is harder to get high GPA that is the med school is looking for among others. I heard Med schools adcom doesn't care much about undergraduate schools you go to as long as it is a 4 year university. GPA and MCAT scores are the most important things. Having said that, it is best for pre-med to go to mid-tier UCs. I don't have any facts to back it up. So anyone has info to support or rebut the assumption above, please comment. Thanks</p>
<p>Mid-tier UCs may be able to give you higher GPAs, but there are still several other factors to take into consideration like which school is your best fit, which school offers you the most resources, etc.</p>
<p>UCSD is in the middle of UCLA/UCB and mid-tier UCs. Its biology programs at graduate level (from US news raking) rank even higher that those of UCLA. It has plenty of research opportunities. Is UCSD a good choice for pre-med with biology major? Love to hear pro and con from you.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your comments.</p>