Pre-Med Chemistry Classes - 14 or 20+30?

<p>Which chem series do students doing premed usually do, the 14 or the 20 and 30? The latter is 7 quarters, the former 6. I'd rather do the 14 series because it would work better with my schedule, but what's the difference? Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>pre meds do 14 series and 3 series for math, supposely it is easier because you won't be competing for the curved grades with actually chem and math majors also not with the engineers :)</p>

<p>Thank you! =)</p>

<p>It's not the curve that makes it easier, it's the material</p>

<p>kutibah, typically pre-meds take the 14 series but, if you're a physical science major (i.e. chem, biochem, etc...) you have to take the 20/30 series.</p>

<p>14 series FOR SURE. i would venture to say that it is actually of AVERAGE difficulty.</p>

<p>i know a lot of people dropping their "premed hopes" because they decided to take the 20 series instead.</p>

<p>Chime in on this SPAM</p>

<p>Haha, I wanted to avoid this topic for as long as possible, but personally, I'd recommend the 20/30 series for Chem simply because the curve is a lot more generous than the curve in 14. Sure, it's "harder," and you have to take more classes, but it fills in a lot of gaps that are left out in the 14 series because the material is covered in much more indepth than surface learning of 14. This would be especially useful on the MCAT.</p>

<p>I was lazy to type so I just waited for Spam to post. I agree with him. We compared the curves, I am doing the 14 and hes doing the other. His series is more generous with A's and B's. The 14 material for a and b ****s you over for the MCAT because there are big gaps in what you need to know. I heard that wasnt a problem for the organic stuff though.</p>

<p>umm.....i don't know what or how your studying for the MCAT, but A/B/C/D go into FAR FAR more depth than what you need for the MCAT. im currently studying for the MCAT, so i have seen this first hand. Every class at UCLA (LS series, physics 6 series, chem 14 series, math 3 series) go into far more depth than what you will ever need for the MCAT.</p>

<p>*the only gap i have found, is that we don't learn solubility (Ksp) and nuclear chemistry. These concepts are extremely basic on the MCAT, and very easy to self-learn. So don't just take the harder series for the MCAT.</p>

<p>as for the curves, i have no idea.</p>

<p>i'd avoid 20/30 series if only because of 30BL and 30CL. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Hmm, I seem to be getting mixed responses. Should I opt for the chem 14 because of the easier material or the chem 20/30 because of the easier curve?</p>

<p>i don't know about taking 20/30 series just to ride the curve because the class is harder and chances are you'll get better grades in 14 series...</p>

<p>14 series.</p>

<p>lol easier curve in the 20/30 series? its all about perception. actual physical science majors and engineers who have to know the stuff will make the curve amongst themselves higher. id take on a bunch of premeds over engineers and chemistry majors in a curved chemistry class ANY day</p>

<p>How hard is the 30series?(0-chem)and is this 5classes 30A,30B,30C,30CL,30BL all 0-chem pre-med courses? or is there more?</p>

<p>30BL a lot of work, but its doable. you just need to put a lot of effort into studying for the final (it basically determines your grade).</p>

<p>i hear 30CL is really killer. i switched majors so i dont have to take it. (i also killed my pre-pharm hopes because i dont want to take it).</p>

<p>take the 14 series if you can. i sure wish i did. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>30CL is really not that bad, unless you mind spending ~15-20 hours in lab per week for the first couple of weeks, but that's not the worst part of it.</p>

<p>there is a 14 series for o-chem? i took 20's30's gen-chem.. can i switch it to 14series for 0-chem?</p>

<p>also can i take lifescience 1 and 2 both at the same time?</p>