<p>Do most premeds take bio or chem freshman year? Or both</p>
<p>I think its pretty even both ways. I know tons of people who took chem, but also a lot of people who took bio. I guess that means people take both? Not really sure.</p>
<p>they all take both</p>
<p>Everyone takes both, and they tell you to retake both even if you have AP credit. A typical first semester premed schedule for freshman year is </p>
<p>Calc 111/112/113 or Stats (math 171)
Bio 101 lecture
Bio 103 lab
Chem 207 (includes lab)
Freshman writing seminar</p>
<p>For second semester:</p>
<p>Another math class (take calculus if you took stats.. you just need 2 math classes.. stats is not required so you can take two calc classes if you want) </p>
<p>Bio 102
Bio lab 104
fws
an elective</p>
<p>I APed out of Bio and Chem 207</p>
<p>However, I don't think it's gonna be a problem because given my major, I'm still going to take microbiology, biochemistry, chem 208, organic, and intro bio lab</p>
<p>You just need to make sure you have enough lab time (I think you are supposed to have 6 credits of bio lab?). I think Cornell tries to get its bio students to retake these courses as a way to weed people out, because I found it really wasn't necessary to retake them. However, it is really good for the MCAT, and is definately more in depth than AP.</p>
<p>most people take both</p>
<p>If you take one, take Chem 207-208. There are many options for bio if you don't want to take intro bio.</p>
<p>What exactly are the premed min requirement courses one needs to take, i understand you dont have to decalre that a major or minor to meet med school requirements. Do many poeple get in if they only did the minimum requirements? How many courses are there. Thanks</p>
<p>Uhh it depends on the med schools, each has their own set of reqs.</p>
<p>Generally, 2 semesters of bio, 2 of chem, 2 of organic chem, 2 physics, 1 sem of calc (some want 2), uhh that's all I can think of i'm not actually premed just everyone i know is ha. look up whatever med school.</p>
<p>2 bio, 2 chem, 2 orgo (one orgo lab), 2 physics, 2 semesters math (1 calc, 1 stats, or 2 calc), 1 biochem, 1 genetics, and a science course or two of your choosing (ie: a neuro course, microbio, etc). I think med schools dont require biochem and maybe not genetics, but they are a part of the bio major and also look good going in/will help you a lot.</p>
<p>And by help you a lot I mean with your 1st year med classes.</p>
<p>jcas, about your schedule- what about foreign language and p.e.?</p>
<p>and premeds, do you find that spend much more time studying than people in other majors and whatnot? Is the whole "weed out" thing really that bad, or is it conceivable to manage premed and a life outside the library?</p>
<p>I'm in CALS so there is no foreign language requirement. I remember my friend who's bio in CAS didn't do a language first semester to just get acclimated to taking college courses, and then as her 5th class for second semester she started her language course work. </p>
<p>PE is a really small commitment, you can even take a COE (outdoor education) course where you just go on a camping trip for a weekend and have a couple of climbing courses on saturdays. A good, easy, PE is bowling. I would take your PE courses and get them out of the way. </p>
<p>As for studying it depends how you study/learn. Also if you are retaking intro bio/chem/math courses (after taking AP versions), you may have to study less if you remember. I personally like the work better because it consists of problem sets (for math/chem) that you can do with friends, but the lab time can be wearing and most time consuming. </p>
<p>I don't think you will find yourself working harder than engineers, architects, and some other majors. You may have more day-to-day work than say a government major, but they will have large papers that you don't have to do. </p>
<p>I know plenty of premeds who have a great social life, and are involved in a lot of other activities. That being said, you have to know when you can afford to go party, or if you should stay in and study on a Friday. You may have less time once you are taking orgo, physics, genetics, biochem.. depending on which ones you take at the same time, and what labs you have. </p>
<p>The weed out thing isn't terrible.. If you can study hard, you will do well. However, you have to understand that in a 20 person intro bio lab only 3 people will get an A, and everything is based on a curved scale for the most part (mean is a b-/c+ and one deviation about is an a-, etc). But, I do know plenty of kids who switched majors after freshman year.</p>
<p>Premed is overrated. I don't think the average premed is as smart as the average engineer.</p>
<p>I took both freshman year. But as long as you get the courses in before you take your MCAT that's fine. They are time consuming classes, but if you do everything you are supposed to be doing, then you should be fine. </p>
<p>I would recommend taking them both during your freshman year. Chemistry is especially important to get in early, because you will also need to take a year of Organic Chemistry for premedical requirements. Depending on your major you may also need Biochem. So I think general chem needs to be there...while you could wait on biology, I don't think that's a good idea either. If you wait until your sophomore year you will probably be taking Orgo at the same time, which is more time consuming than general chemistry.</p>
<p>You will still have time to have a life outside of classes. I'm premed and in engineering and while sometimes I have to manage may time well, especially during exam times, I usually don't have trouble fitting everything in.</p>
<p>norcalguy....I agree.</p>
<p>I remember last year after the second round of prelims, most of my friends in biology as premed were grumbling about how difficult Chem 207 was...a couple hours later I went to 191 (Eng. math), and all the chemical engineers were talking about how it was their easiest class.</p>
<p>probably - the average engineer 1st semester freshman year is probably smarter than the average premed. But if you look at the kids getting into med school senior year i guarantee you they're going to be smarter than the average engineer</p>
<p>what's up jcas</p>
<p>But that's not the point. Only the top 20% of premeds apply to medical school. So, yes, a premed in the top 20% is probably smarter than the average engineer (although that's debatable also). But it has nothing to do with course difficulty. The basic premed courses (like intro bio, gen chem, and orgo) are large (600-1000 people) so you'll still be competing against dumb and smart premeds alike.</p>
<p>wait what does that mean, only the top 20% premeds apply to medical school? and norcalguy, why did you feel the need to rouse feathers? insecure?</p>