President Sullivan leaving

<p>I agree,VADAD1. And Macara acting like he and his wife were JUST resigning takes the cake.</p>

<p>In related news, I’d just like to say that my daughter is outraged at the way this situation has been handled, and she has decided to renounce her position on the UVA wait list…which closed two weeks ago.</p>

<p>Good one,VADAD1. Tell her to have a great time at Mary Washington!</p>

<p>“Whether they are correct or not, I am kind of stunned at how utterly obnoxious and unprofessional some of these distinguished educators are being in their resignation statements.”</p>

<p>Pompous windbags can be MBAs degrees or PhDs with tenure. </p>

<p>I note, for example, that Mr. Wulf is 73 years old. Anyone want to guess that he was maybe going to be retiring from UVA sometime soon anyway? Would you also guess that college professors might tend to retire in the summertime after the school year ends? Fyi, Wulf’s professor wife Anita Jones (who he mentioned in his resignation letter) retired from UVA in June 2010. For me, that takes a little of the oomph out of his recent public resignation on principle. </p>

<p>As Henry Kissinger once said, “Academic politics is much more vicious than real politics. We think it’s because the stakes are so small.”</p>

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<p>My son is still on a wait list at a school. Though we would be paying 2x more and financially strap us, I will insist he takes it. The plan was UVA then grad school at a more prestigious university, but I don’t think we can count on UVA 100% now. While his grades will be good, I question the credibility of the school, research possibilities undergrads can have, etc… Not sure.</p>

<p>Livelaugh - look at the positive side - there has been a tremendous unifying experience among the students, faculty and alums. If this debacle is ended soon, there will be limited damage from faculty leaving for this reason - so far it is one 73 year old prof. The ringleader of the coup will be gone in 10 days, and her co-conspirator resigned 2 years early.</p>

<p>Yes, Charlie but the ideals/goals that Dragas has are ones that are she feels the new president will embrace as well. He wasn’t chosen out of a hat. They (the BOV) all need to go in my opinion. Fresh slate. McD needs to step in and Sullivan needs to be asked to return. Until the faculty is supportive and feels they have a Board that is in touch with what is happening in the classrooms and within the university, you are going to have discord. It’s like the saying, “If momma ain’t happy, then no one is happy”. </p>

<p>On another front, Joe Morrissey says his law firm will pay for a legislative hearing looking into Sullivan’s ouster. I wonder if that will happen…He is one of my least favorite politicians, but his proposal might be the only way to really find out what went on…</p>

<p>[Howell</a> says a legislative hearing on U.Va. is ‘premature’ | Richmond Times-Dispatch](<a href=“http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/jun/20/1/morrissey-offers-to-pay-expenses-for-legislative-h-ar-2001683/]Howell”>http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/jun/20/1/morrissey-offers-to-pay-expenses-for-legislative-h-ar-2001683/)</p>

<p>Statement from Faculty Senate to the faculty.
“We have already made a difference and we will not back down from fighting for our principles and for the University we love.”</p>

<p>“Things are moving. With your help,we will prevail.”
[Faculty</a> Senate releases statement of tasks | The Cavalier Daily](<a href=“http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2012/06/20/faculty-senate-releases-statement-of-tasks/]Faculty”>http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2012/06/20/faculty-senate-releases-statement-of-tasks/)</p>

<p>Interesting. The Washington Post website has an article on the front page. At the end it indicates Sullivan would be willing to stay if Dragas gets the ax.</p>

<p>I have no horse in this race. It is like a soap opera.</p>

<p>What is interesting to me is that Dragas just doesn’t go away. She has ZERO support from what I can tell and even her local paper, The Virginian-Pilot, said in their editorial page today that she needs to go. She has embarassed herself and brought turmoil to a great University. In the end, I do believe UVa will come through this okay and I do find much of what is going on now with faculty,students, and alumni inspiring.</p>

<p>Note that the terms of Dragas and several other BOVs expire in the next ten days. Some can be re-appointed by the Gov, while others are term limited. All kinds of conspiracy theories can be spun out of this detail.</p>

<p>“I do find much of what is going on now with faculty,students, and alumni inspiring”</p>

<p>I totally agree sevmom. No matter what happens, I respect the heck out of them for trying to set a wrong right. The unity and resilience they are showing in the face of this adversity is truly of “Hokie-esque” proportions :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Keep the pressure on 'em 'Hoos!</p>

<p>Dragas doesn’t feel the pressure to resign as much as the Kington. Her appointment for this term is ending anyway in 10 days. She will make a quiet exit in other words and save embarrassment for herself.</p>

<p>Good Huffington Post article on the overall view of this situation: </p>

<p>[David</a> Karpf: UVA Board’s Lazy Business Sense](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>UVA Board's Lazy Business Sense | HuffPost Latest News)</p>

<p>Also, WINA updated Macara’s resignation story with the link to his accepting the Vanderbilt position in March. UVa staff and faculty need to be careful they do not fall into the same mode as the BOV. Transparency for all parties at this time is of the utmost of importance.</p>

<p>Woosah- thanks for the link. That is a great article. I just don’t understand how people could be SO stupid and short-sighted.</p>

<p>I am appalled that mainstream news sources keep on citing the Dragas and Kington emails without ever even mentioning (never mind giving proper credit) that the Cavalier Daily’s investigative journalism was the reason why the emails are public in the first place. These honorless journalists really are plagiarising vultures descending upon the troubles of the university. Shame, shame.</p>

<p>I’m pretty sure multiple news outlets submitted FOIA requests to get those emails. Cav Daily definitely reported their findings first and put the full documents up on their website.</p>

<p>tweet from Washington Post’s Daniel de Vise:</p>

<p>Props to @cavalierdaily – I dunno if they were first to get #uva emails, but they were first, by several hours, to report them</p>

<p>re: Macara, it is quite common for a high-profile faculty member to take another position and have the original institution grant a leave of absence for a year (or more) to try on the new gig-- on the chance that the new institution may not be everything the professor had hoped for, or the original institution is able to put together a stronger counter. </p>

<p>I have no idea if that Macara had such an offer; if he did, his letter would have had the effect of slamming the door that UVA wanted to leave open. That should still be counted as a consequence, and not an after the fact rationalization.</p>