<p>does anyone know what the Presidential scholars recognition cutoff is (given to the top 20-30 students of each state)? I received a 35 (138) on the ACT and 2370 on the SAT- how much more do I need to improve my scores to receive recognition as an american abroad?</p>
<p>^You’re qualified as long as your score is 99th percentile on both.</p>
<p>It’s kind of a random process. They randomly email people.</p>
<p>^Just 99th percentile is far too low for Pres Scholar emails.</p>
<p>It depends where one lives, OP, but 2370 is usually too low. The 35 might work though. 2390 would be better, 2400 would make it pretty much certain. 36 would be good too.</p>
<p>I think in pennsylvania it is perfect reading+math score?</p>
<p>I don’t think 2370 will earn a Presidential Scholar nomination in any state. No idea about the ACT.</p>
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<p>Don’t see this much. 
Anyhow, does one have to do anything in order to be eligible?</p>
<p>Top 20 male and female students with the highest SAT/ACT scores (single sitting) are nominated as candidates. Then a holistic review of each student’s community contributions, leadership, EC’s etc. is used to determine roughly 500 semifinalists (6-20 per state depending on the academic strength of the state). Then roughly 120 are chosen as Presidential Scholars (1 male/female from each state/D.C. and Puerto Rico + around 20 other semifinalists).</p>
<p>I believe it is top CR and Math, with Writing not considered. So the 2370 might do it if the Writing is 770. There can be more than 20 male and female candidates in a state if there are ties (i.e., if more than 20 get 800 + 800).</p>
<p>^ If there are more than 20 male/female candidates, I would assume that they would then use the Writing section to determine the 20 highest scores.</p>
<p>What makes you guys think that the Writing section is not considered? Also, does anyone have experience with the Young Arts program to be eligible as a Presidential Scholar in the Arts?</p>
<p>I’ve heard somewhere that the initial determination of the top 30 male/female scorers is by M + CR only, but the final selection of 20 male/female students takes into account the Writing section. I might have remembered wrong and I don’t care to look up information right now lol.</p>
<p>I got 800 CR, 800 M, 770 W. I got nominated.</p>
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They don’t, unless it’s changed this year. The next two rounds are holistic, so they consider anything and everything. What really counts the most is unclear. There are a number of essays on the application. The Young Arts is a separate track.</p>
<p>Very cool. </p>
<p>Is there any way to predict the scores needed to qualify for the initial stage of the Presidential scholars program- I know the ACT has a profile for every graduating class, but I can’t find anything for the SAT. The reason I ask this is because I have residences in Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, and Germany and want to know which state to try to qualify for.</p>
<p>Hard to know about Pennsylvania or New Hampshire. In Michigan, recently you have needed 1600 CR+M on the SAT or 141 sum of scores (i.e., highest possible 35) on the ACT. The requirement tends to be somewhat lower in low-population western states like Wyoming, but the PSAT cut-offs for National Merit Semi-Finalist do not seem to be a good guide.</p>
<p>I researched and PSAT scores are not considered.</p>
<p>And yes, you need a 2370-2400 to have a good chance.</p>
<p>Re PSAT scores: I meant that a state with a relatively low cut-off for National Merit Semi-Finalist status does not necessarily have a lower cut-off than other states for the first step in the Presidential Scholar selection (i.e., 1600 CR+M will suffice in any state, and it may be needed even in some states with pretty low cut-offs for NMSF). Agreed, they do not look at PSAT scores.</p>
<p>any chance in new york with a 139 ACT?</p>
<p>You’re in. 139 is not even amazing, it’s godly. </p>
<p>And people are sent a letter in the mail or an email?</p>
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<p>Huh? 139 is a 34.75 unrounded composite score.</p>