<p>A little premature, but something interesting I just discovered:</p>
<p>When determining its candidates each year, the Presidential Scholars Program only counts SAT scores from a single sitting </p>
<p>Does anyone have any idea where we can find out what have been past minimum scores from different states? </p>
<p>Or are there enough perfect scores in single sittings from each state so that a 2290 would not stand much of a chance?</p>
<p>Just curious . . .</p>
<p>I don't know where to find past minimum scores, but only the top 20 or 30 scores in each state (top males, top females) make it into the first round. </p>
<p>I also don't know whether the writing section is being included in the conversion to ACT scores (all SAT scores are converted to ACT scores, I think.)</p>
<p>It is my guess that the score you mention above will not fall into the top 20 or 30 in Florida. The only student in my son's school who made it into the contest last year had a 36 on the ACT. Why don't you ask a guidance counselor at your child's school? My son's SAT score was 2340 and his guidance counselor has not mentioned the possibility of a nomination, despite the fact that his school has done quite well over the last decade at producing winners. I take his counselor's silence as a hint that the score is not good enough.</p>
<p>Sorry to be pessimistic. And I hope I'm wrong.</p>
<p>Oh, no problem with pessimism at all; it was simple curiousity. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if Brandon didn't make it! </p>
<p>Thanks for your response!</p>
<p>According to the website they will not include the writing section so it will be based on 1600 m/cr concorded with ACT scores - so the 1600/36's will win the day.</p>
<p>No Writing score will be considered.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ed.gov/programs/psp/faq.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ed.gov/programs/psp/faq.html</a></p>
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Will the ACT Assessment's new writing component or the College Board's changes to the SAT test affect my eligibility for the Presidential Scholars Program?</p>
<p>No. The optional writing component will first be offered as part of the ACT Assessment with the February 2005 test. The new SAT test includes a required writing component, and a "Critical Reading" section that equates to and replaces what was formerly known as the "Verbal" section. The new SAT will be administered for the first time in March of 2005. So, Scholars recognized in June 2006 will be the first group who experience either of the new testing formats. Since the writing component is not a required part of both assessments, however, that score will not be used to determine eligibility for the Presidential Scholars Program. We will continue to develop our list of eligible candidates using the same scores (Math and Verbal/Critical Reading for the SAT, and English, Math, Reading and Science for the ACT) that we currently do.
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<p>I called them and they are not considering writing scetion this year too.</p>
<p>Well, there were about 1,000 kids a year who got 1600s on the old SATs. That's an average of 20 per state, but I suspect they were not evenly distributed by state. So I would think in a populous state, 1600 CR/M would be pretty close to a cut-off.</p>
<p>In my state students with either a 1590 or a 35 ACT have been in the mix the last few years, but not any 1580's or 34's (to my knowledge).</p>
<p>So I'm sure a 1560 from Florida wouldn't cut it. Oh well - not a big deal. :-)</p>
<p>Too bad they don't take the composite, though!</p>
<p>Yea, Presidential Scholar's candidates are all basically perfect scores or one point shy of. And even then, just for being a candidate you don't get much of anything. It's the coming application process that's hard.</p>