<p>up one spot from #12 last year. probably the smallest program in the top 15 by a wide margin.</p>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>berkeley</li>
<li>stanford</li>
<li>caltech</li>
<li>illinois</li>
<li>georgia tech</li>
<li>michigan</li>
<li>CMU</li>
<li>purdue</li>
<li>cornell</li>
<li>princeton</li>
<li>texas</li>
<li>wisconsin</li>
<li>johns hopkins</li>
<li>northwestern</li>
<li>penn state</li>
</ol>
<p>Is Harvard still in 30something place?</p>
<p>To be honest, undergraduate rankings for majors (especially engineering) are not nearly as important as those for the graduate school. You'll get just as good of an education at Purdue as you would at Berkeley; it's not as though undergraduate engineering programs are very different from one another in what they teach (thank you ABET).</p>
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up one spot from #12 last year. probably the smallest program in the top 15 by a wide margin.
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From collegeboard.com:</p>
<p>Princeton: 4170 Students * 16% Engineering Majors = 667
Caltech: 913 Students * 35% Engineering Majors = 320</p>
<p>So, not quite the smallest, but not even that it matters. Why am I pointing it out? Sheer boredom.</p>
<p>Does the list go on? i couldn't find it on usnews. i'd be interested to see where others fell.</p>
<p>bump.........</p>
<p>who knows lol</p>
<p>on tv they just flashed the top 11 schools (#9 is held by 3)</p>
<p>so, basically media could care less about the other rankings</p>
<p>Where did you get that ranking? Does it have all the other subjects?</p>
<p>There are only 676 undergraduate engineering students at Stanford, which makes it a smaller percentage overall than Princeton.</p>
<p>^ are you sure about that? I thought Stanford's Eng. Program is much larger than that.</p>
<p>Stanford granted more undergraduate engineering degrees (383) than Princeton (168), but Princeton's got a greater percentage of engineering graduates (18%) than Stanford (12%).</p>
<p><a href="http://soe.stanford.edu/about/facts.html%5B/url%5D">http://soe.stanford.edu/about/facts.html</a>
<a href="http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/conferred/ug_byacad.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://registrar1.princeton.edu/data/conferred/ug_byacad.pdf</a></p>
<p>to clarify, i meant "smallest program" in the absolute, not relative sense. i figured that caltech's was smaller, but that's because caltech enrolls just over 200 students per class - i figured others would regard it as anomolous for this purpose. by the way, anyone have the rankings for schools outside the top 15? i'm curious to see if harvard broke out of the 30s, or yale the 40s.</p>
<p>I note that Princeton still trails Cornell within the Ivies..</p>
<p>In the overall ranking of engineering programs, Princeton ranks 18th and the relatively tiny Harvard program ranks 21st. The likewise small Yale program ranks 39th.</p>
<p>An interesting take on being an undergrad engineering "concentrator" at Harvard:</p>
<p>Well, I'm not certain if it's better to go to a small engineering program for the liberal arts feel or for a more bustling/excited engineering place. It's probably up to the engineering student (I prefer something in between). But the second link was a great read, and gives a good feel of Harvard engineering.</p>
<p>so Princeton 168 graduates x 4 = 672 about the same as the total # 667.</p>
<p>But Stanford 383 x 4 = 1,532. More than two times than reported by zephyr.</p>
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<p>yes, #11 to cornell's #10. no one claimed otherwise. but thank you for pointing out the black lining in the silver cloud. we can always count on you to do so over here. by the way, i take it harvard's still well behind in the 30's, or else you would have boasted of its rise. am i right?</p>
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<p>In the overall ranking of engineering programs, Princeton ranks 18th and the relatively tiny Harvard program ranks 21st.</p>
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<p>if by "overall" you mean "graduate," then yes. but this is an undergraduate-oriented board, last i checked, so your posting of those rankings as "overall" is both inapposite and underhanded.</p>
<p>Keep your hair on :)</p>
<p>(As you can see, Scottie is a bit sensitive about Princeton engineering's relatively low rankings, despite the relatively large fraction of its undergrads majoring in the field and its far greater size relative to Harvard's.)</p>
<p>yes, so sensitive that i started a thread about them! (btw, #11 >>> #30-something.)</p>
<p>Rather misleading to bubble about "up one spot" when Princeton's "peer ranking" remained <em>exactly the same</em> at 4.1. </p>
<p>Come on, scottie: it went "up one spot" to an 11th place tie with Texas only because the Texas peer ranking <em>fell</em> from 4.2 - causing it to slump to Princeton's level!</p>
<p>This development is worthy of a bragging thread?</p>