<p>where did you get this info from? Because when i called admission, they claimed that this policy doesn't affect the class of '11 cause people have already submitted their apps. Plus doing this type of 'dry run' really will prove nothing i think, cause the people applying ED are still goning to apply ED so i dont really see the point in them jus tdefferring everyone.</p>
<p>"How stupid! This may be the end of Early Admissions as we know it."</p>
<p>It's not stupid if the whole point of the exercise is to end Early Admissions as we know it.</p>
<p>Does anyone know here I can find some more info about Harvard canceling it's Early Decision program.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance. I really need to know because I have to write an article about it for my school newspaper.</p>
<p>About Princeton dropping:
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/09/18/early.admissions.ap/index.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/09/18/early.admissions.ap/index.html</a></p>
<p>Information is not that difficult to find if you search for it. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yale, Stanford, apparently still reluctant to take a yield hit.</p>
<p>a solid and timely addition to the anti-early fold (i was a little nervous waiting for that next domino to fall). UVA is probably the best public university on the east coast, and perhaps just as importantly, the most <em>socially</em> prestigious public university in the country. berkeley and michigan would be nice future additions to the mix, but the former faces so much bureaucracy with the regents et al, and the latter might still be winded from its defense of affirmative action.</p>
<p>Today's Prince.</p>
<p>Do Berkeley and Michigan even offer EA or ED? I don't think so, although Michigan has "rolling admissions."</p>
<p>And of course UNC-CH dropped ED a couple of years ago. UDel is another public that dropped ED this year.</p>
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<p>Do Berkeley and Michigan even offer EA or ED?</p>
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<p>apparently not, after reviewing their sites. i merely assumed that they did, since the best east coast publics did (at least until this recent round of reforms). i did learn, however, that they have very different deadlines: november 30 and february 1, respectively. some standardization of these deadlines across universities would be beneficial, but it's probably a pipe dream now.</p>
<p>UIUC (Illinois) is another strong public with, I recall, a remarkably early rolling admissions deadline.</p>
<p>Well, the whole deal about 'rolling admissions' - I always thought - is that there <em>is</em> no deadline.</p>
<p>"While our staff had discussed the pros and cons of eliminating early decision or moving to an early action plan that is not binding, the reality of how few low-income students apply for any early plans really was compelling for me," UVa. Dean of Admissions John Blackburn said in a school news release.</p>
<pre><code>Early admission programs have long drawn fire for allegedly privileging more affluent students, who are more likely to be aware of such programs and who can more easily forego the option of comparing financial aid offers from several schools. Applicants who apply early to selective schools often are two or three times more likely to be admitted than regular decision applicants.
Yale has said it will defer any decision on its admissions policy until after Harvard's move takes effect, while officials at Brown and MIT have said they have no plans to change their policy. Stanford has stated it is open to change...."
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<p>Hi, Byerly, </p>
<p>At my alma mater, the U of MN, I'm sure students are admitted until quite soon before each new school year starts--especially if they are desirable students. The student housing does fill up, and always has, and the recent honors program also fills up (but its hard deadline is really AFTER the regular decision deadline at any of the Ivies, I'm pretty sure). But I seem to recall, having once browsed the UIUC Web site for the information, that that school is all full by early December almost a full year before the admitted students start school. I rather suspect that at the more desirable rolling admission schools, it is important to apply as soon as possible, and I'm sure that's why Harvard has always permitted its SCEA applicants to apply to rolling admission schools on any schedule. The one key advantage of rolling admission is a fast answer. Most of my local friends have children who are considering the U of MN their "safety" school, and I think they will all know VERY soon, if they are applying as class of 2007 high school students, whether they are admitted or not. A promptly filed application to a rolling admission school can give a senior peace of mind as that senior applies to more formidable schools like Harvard.</p>
<p>I know many potential applicants to Harvard (and other elites) have applied to U of Michigan, rolling admissions. It is indeed comforting to have a "bird in the hand", so to speak, and I wager that while the Wolverines yield rate may be low for these people, Michigan still winds up with some excellent students who otherwise might never have applied.</p>
<p>I once predicted that the future of college admissions was rolling admissons, with applicants pursued on the basis of their PSAT scores! Not farfetched, as some tall and talented basketball players being admitted as 8th graders these days.</p>
<p>To tokenadult,</p>
<p>I'm positive the majority of international students that come to the US to study in colleges and universities are not in general poorer than most Americans. In fact, I would guess that the financially average international student is slightly more wealthy than a financially average American student. First of all, internationals do not get any grants to study here, so just deciding to study abroad is something that only wealther internationals will opt to do. Secondly, just arranging to study overseas costs a lot of money in common expenses (flights, phone bills, etc.) and usually the family will have plenty of sources to fund those expenses.</p>
<p>What you say is very likely true of the overall national pool of foreign students at United States universities, but the point is that Harvard and Princeton (this is the Princeton forum) want to make sure that THEY get foreign students who couldn't possibly afford to attend United States universities with family or home government funds. Both colleges offer full financial aid to ALL admitted students--regardless of citizenship--and that means that the United States visa requirements of being able to show sufficient support are met in the case of students admitted by Harvard and Princeton. But to get the best students from poor families around the world, first Harvard and Princeton have to get applications from those families, after making clear that the time and effort of applying is worthwhile to families who might not guess attending such colleges is feasible.</p>
<p>"YALE HAS MADE a non-binding decision on early action: In a meeting last week, the school's board chose not to follow Harvard and Princeton in eliminating its early admissions program. But President Richard Levin tells the YDN: "That's not a final decision." Oh, the stress of college admissions.</p>
<p>The wavering at Yale is somewhat suprising, since Levin has long been critical of early admissions and, in 2002, sought approval from the Justice Department to drop the program along with other schools. Perhaps the YDN could explain what accounts for the newfound apprehension...."</p>
<p>most of my friends (around 10) who got in pton early had legacy!</p>
<p>ok debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>