Princeton mocks College Confidential!

[Toolmaker]

<p>Collegeboard sends scores = $9.50 </p>

<p>attend Princeton --------- = $48,500 </p>

<p>TagTeam smackdown on CC: Stupify, Mifune, Pigs<em>at</em>sea vs. Randombetch, Newestnewb</p>

<p>PRICELESS</p>

<p>people, go to bed</p>

[Jaddua]

<p>You spelled Stupefy’s name incorrectly, you tool!</p>

<p>(on a side note, has anyone else noticed that Deal or No Deal is basically dead?)</p>

[silverturtle]

<p>I did not find anything to be inappropriate in mifune’s post that the article cited. Being in contrast to those of many other posters in a mostly casual thread, his post’s tone probably led to the article’s citation – perhaps unjustifiably so. I expect, though, that the article’s author was merely attempting to be comic.</p>

<p>Anyhow, the article deserves only a quick laugh and no tangential hostility.</p>

[pigs_at_sea]

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Thank you, pigs. I realize that you obtain a fair amount of hassle and insensitivity from others on these forums as well and I can empathize with the affronted feeling that this may cause.

Aww yes. right on</p>

[hahalolk]

<p>i lawlzed at this thread and the original one as well</p>

[randombetch]

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Actually the only thing that’s pathetic is that you stray from the conventional course of discussion to fill this thread with vituperative. Your excessive, emotive bias only functions to re-establish the tone of this cumulative dialogue from a healthy form of public discourse to one that irritates other individuals. Similar to what LuciaB posted, I and everyone else were merely discussing opinions and judgments and had absolutely no vile intentions of disrespecting each other with crass, ill-mannered, or derogatory language. The only motive for your inflammatory post was your own egotism. Directly attacking the speaker/individual is a very conceited tactic from a debate standpoint. If you do not individually concur with what I articulate, question my arguments rather than engaging in belligerent character assassination.</p>

<p>Before you proceed with your public humiliation campaign, allow me to state a few things. First, the right to voice oneself and express opinion, ideological stances, and individual insight is a Constitutionally-imparted right. Unmitigated defamation, on the other hand, is not. I simply feel that the juxtaposition of my comment with those from earlier in the thread (which were virtually unrelated to the discussion that Handala92 and I were having) did not suitably represent my post in its proper context. In other words, my comment did not directly succeed those from the original thread, rendering it to appear arbitrary and effusive in relation when it truly was not. Have you even bothered to read the original thread? I have provided the final three posts so you may acquaint yourself with the context in which my comment was written:

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<p>Uh huh, right. I was just pointing out the obvious because you seemed to not get it dude.</p>

<p>Public humiliation campaign, uh huh. I’m so humiliated.</p>

[Alumother]

<p>Mifune. Advice from an adult. Use fewer big words.</p>

[mifune]

<p>I share the same belief that the lack of understanding of one’s audience can be counterproductive. This is particularly true when the formulation of vague constructions interferes with the basic comprehension of audiences that are acquainted with the subject matter. But like most individuals, I do unconsciously create slightly longer sentences when I speak and write for informal occasions. But I am more mindful of my rhetoric when writing for academic purposes.</p>

[Collegestress16]

<p>Mifune you are very good at writing:). Whats your major? Ever thought about going into Law or English? I bet you’ll get into a top school with those writing chops!</p>

[mifune]

<p>Oh, thanks. For college, I will be considering a concentration that incorporates chemical, physical, and quantitative methods into the study of the biological sciences. Of course, an interdisciplinary concentration of this sort varies by college. As for law, I do hold a special interest in bioethics since the formation of new scientific ideas inevitably creates new philosophical and sociological discourse.</p>

[ChoklitRain]

<p>Mifune’s response was laughable because he offered this sober “analysis” of something that was blatantly false(and the article said so).</p>

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Mifune you are very good at writing

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<p>This is untrue. Mifune’s writing is excruciating to read. He uses proper grammar and spelling, but his sentence structure is mind-numbingly convoluted. He chooses the biggest words possible and uses ridiculously poor phrasing. </p>

<p>Mifune-speak(a variation on English):

I share the same belief that the lack of understanding of one’s audience can be counterproductive. This is particularly true when the formulation of vague constructions interferes with the basic comprehension of audiences that are acquainted with the subject matter. But like most individuals, I do unconsciously create slightly longer sentences when I speak and write for informal occasions. But I am more mindful of my rhetoric when writing for academic purposes.

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<p>Mifune-speak translated to decent English:

I agree that it’s important to understand your audience, especially when vague phrasing prevents people from understanding your message. Like a lot of people, I could be more concise when I speak and write informally. When I do academic writing, though, I pay more attention to brevity.

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[theskylitup]

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Mifune you are very good at writing

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<p>Are you serious? Great writing is the ability to say much using very little. </p>

<p>Perhaps in the vein of Hemingway or more recently John Banville. </p>

<p>Mifune’s is longwinded and pretentious. The unnecessary use of big words and convoluted sentences is BAD writing. It isn’t eloquent, it isn’t pithy, it isn’t particularly remarkable either. Anyone could achieve the same armed with a thesaurus and a penchant for spending alot of time on internet forums posting tiringly long posts. </p>

<p>I think he will get a rude shock once he gets to college and gets marked by academics. Isn’t one of Harvard’s compulsory classes one on academic writing - where students learn how to strip back and pare down their writing? I imagine the same for most if not all other universities.</p>

[Collegestress16]

<p>Maybe I’m really bad at writing, but even with a thesaurus I would use all the words wrong. I wouldn’t be able to write with such a HUGE lexicon that mifune uses and inverted sentence structure is what Shakespeare loved using. From what I recall, I believe mifune is a junior who is applying to colleges, so his abilities have already been demonstrated.</p>

[yodastreet]

<p>Mifune does indeed have an impressive vocabulary and knows how to use it; both are useful skills. I think it’s just that some of his posts require so much more time to read than they should. </p>

<p>Then again, this is only an Internet forum. If he can flip between the more erudite diction and a clearer one in real life, that’s all that matters.</p>

[randombetch]

<p>I must say, mifune does not have great writing at all. As the above posters have mentioned, it’s both time wasting (his and ours), painful to read, and simply pretentious. </p>

<p>Colleges who are stereotypically known to have pretentious students (ie: HYP) purposefully try to select against kids who seem pretentious. Hopefully, mifune was smart enough to cut back a little on his essays and didn’t write in the convoluted fashion that he does on CC. </p>

<p>Good lawyers speak/write like Obama does - they’re extremely clear while being purposefully concise. After one of his speeches in China, he opened up to questions. One English-learning student in the audience mentioned how Obama is so clear, the student didn’t even need the headset for a translation. Hope you guys got to enjoy his speech tonight!</p>

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Public humiliation campaign, uh huh. I’m so humiliated.

You obviously misread that…</p>

[Stupefy]

<p>Obama is a good speaker, but that’s pretty much it. totally disappointing, promised more than he could deliver. this coming from a pretty hardcore democrat</p>

[Alumother]

<p>Mifune. Advice from a native English-speaking adult. Use simpler sentence structure. </p>

<p>It’s about the meaning, or the impact, not the construction.</p>

[HIGHreachNoob]

<p>can’t we all just get along?</p>

[LuciaB]

<p>i enjoy his writing and he does write well with excellent vocabulary, grammar and strong messages. and yes, mifune has great skills and his potential is enormous. if you think his writing is complex, have fun in your literature classes!! </p>

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The unnecessary use of big words and convoluted sentences is BAD writing. It isn’t eloquent, it isn’t pithy, it isn’t particularly remarkable either.

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<p>Shakespeare, like Collegestress16 said, is the most cherished writer in our language because of his unique style. i guess because Shakespeare wrote a lot in a complex style and invented new words that he was a BAD writer. Shakespeare was “longwinded and pretentious”. but guess what?? hes the greatest and most well known writer in the history of the English language.</p>

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I must say, mifune does not have great writing at all.

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<p>Bias bias bias…</p>