<p>The graduate rankings are primarily based on the strenth of the faculty, not the strength of the student body. </p>
<p>The graduates of Econ, Math, …etc from Princeton is not that impressive. Bernanke, Eric Maskin graduated from Harvard. Paul Krugman from Yale MIT… They are all ‘employee’ of Princeton. </p>
<p>Can you name at least 5 famous Math Econ Physics graduate of Princeton (who actually received degree from P , especially undergra ) ?</p>
<p>The insecure have reached a new high (low?) when the argument turns to “So what if you have impressive faculty, Princeton?”</p>
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The graduates of Econ, Math, …etc from Princeton is not that impressive. Bernanke, Eric Maskin graduated from Harvard. Paul Krugman from Yale MIT… They are all ‘employee’ of Princeton.</p>
<p>Can you name at least 5 famous Math Econ Physics graduate of Princeton (who actually received degree from P , especially undergra ) ?
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<p>You kidding with us?</p>
<p>Google Eric Lander, Gary Becker, Greg Mankiw, Paul Volcker, Alan Blinder, Meg Whitman, Peter Lewis, Steve Forbes, or any of a dozen other names if you’re looking for currently alive, currently influential Princeton alumni. Not only are these figures as impressive as Maskin or Princeton faculty, many of them actually staff those other schools you like so much. (You’re welcome, Harvard.) </p>
<p>And that’s only limiting it to Princeton alumni who got A.B.'s in math, physics, or economics. Once you open it up to all alumni… it’s tough to argue that the list is unimpressive.</p>
<p>And an econ degree from Princeton is definitely not any better than one from Harvard or MIT. The quality of education you received is though :).</p>
<p>wow Jomjom- it takes talent to ruffle so many feathers. Still, there is a point to what he’s saying- Princeton math faculty are superstars, there is no denying that- 15 members of the Natural Academy of Sciences, ahead of such elite institutions as NYU Courant, Harvard, MIT, and Berkeley. This would really only be an advantage at the graduate level or if one were to write a senior thesis in math (check the thesis catalog, hardly anyone actually majors in math at Princeton).</p>
<p>The small undergraduate program is really geared to top students (maybe 10-15 a year), and average Princeton students are simply not capable of doing well in 200 and especially 300 level classes. So having a great department that caters to a handful of gifted students (who honed their abilities well prior to university) while being completely inaccessible to the other 4,000 undergrads isn’t something the average Princeton student should feel good about.</p>
<p>p.s. math and science rankings were not updated this year</p>
<p>according to this link, [url=<a href=“http://www.math.princeton.edu/undergraduate/]Mathematics”>Undergraduate Program | Math]Mathematics</a> Department - Princeton University - Undergraduate Homepage<a href=“you%20have%20to%20go%20to%20the%20bottom%20right%20and%20click%20on” title=“Math Majors”>/url</a>, there are 35 math majors in each of 2009 and 2010 classes (and it lists the names). That would make it a decent sized department and frankly bigger than I would have anticipated.</p>
<p>And the faculty also teach intro courses as well- I had a field’s medal winner teach my mat104 class. Blinder and Rosen often teach the 100 level econ classes. A nobel prize winner and a macarthur grant winner teach the MOL class for non-mol majors.</p>
<p>Princeton is definitely in the top 5. so no one cares. And dont listen to that jomjom guy. hes crazy. I dunno what he has against Princeton, but look at his older posts. Freaky huh?</p>
<p>thanks for the link midatlmom- according to the senior thesis catalog, only about 17-18 students finished with a math degree last year and the year before. Maybe many of the 35 listed on the page switch majors during junior or senior year (when working on a junior paper or senior thesis respectively.) Upper divisional coursework is not for the meek.</p>
<p>I believe Princeton has two Fields medalists, Charles Fefferman and Andrei Okounkov. Okounkov has been at Columbia for the past year. Who taught your 104 ec1234?</p>
<p>I asked around and the 2009 and 2010 numbers are correct. For whatever reason, there has been a big increase in the number of math majors for the classes of 2009 and 2010. It would be highly unlikely that the 2009 numbers will change significantly (I have never heard of a senior changing majors, but I suppose it’s possible). Of course, this increase in math majors may not continue and you are correct that previous numbers were generally around 15-20.</p>