<p>Do you mean jobs during the school year? Internships during the school year? Are you saying Princeton kids can't have an internship on Wall Street during the school year? How many kids at Stanford undergraduate have internships during the school year in Silicon Valley? I work in Silicon Valley. I know where the train station is. I have not heard that it is common to have a Stanford undergraduate as an intern during the school year. Summers, sure. MBA students, sure. </p>
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you know just as well as I that job/internship opportunities available in NYC or Philadelphia are hardly feasible for undergraduates studying at Princeton.
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During the school year, of course not. But as Alumother pointed out above, it isn't common for Stanford--or probably any other school's undergrads, I would venture--either. So this is rather irrelevant.</p>
<p>So no, you don't seem to know as well as I do that job/internship opportunities in NYC and Philadelphia are, overall, very feasible for Princeton undergrads.</p>
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So no, you don't seem to know as well as I do that job/internship opportunities in NYC and Philadelphia are, overall, very feasible for Princeton undergrads.
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<p>Um...but apparently I do, because you just validated my point by saying: </p>
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During the school year, of course not.
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But as Alumother pointed out above, it isn't common for Stanford--or probably any other school's undergrads, I would venture--either.
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<p>If by "common" you mean the majority of students, then of course not. Not even close to the majority. But I'm talking about the undergraduate who wants to have a chance of obtaining some money/experience during their *school year<a href="yes,%20I%20know%20I%20misunderstood%20what%20the%20OP%20was%20asking,%20but%20I%20already%20made%20the%20argument,%20so%20I%20might%20as%20well%20stick%20with%20it">/i</a>, and I'm saying it's easier for a Stanford student than a Princeton student. I personally know of Stanford students who work at computer graphics firms, one who worked for Jeff Hawkins' new neuroscience-based company Numenta, and two who intern at Apple and Google. They all go to classes in the morning, work in the afternoon, come to campus in time for dinner and chill/do homework in the late afternoon/night.</p>
<p>Why, in god's name, would I be arguing for summer opportunities, where you can actually LEAVE campus and go to any part of the country you wish?</p>
<p>For those Stanford students that you mentioned, I am positive that had they attended Princeton, they would have found similar opportunities that are just as enriching and pay just as well. I think that it is often the case that more Stanford students have cars while they are on campus, especially if you are from the area -- I suppose that might heighten the accessibility nearby. But in terms of opportunities, I don't think theres much of a difference. For anyone who's interested, I believe there is a website linked off of the Princeton work-study one that lists available on-campus internships or job opportunities in which you get to work closely with professors and their research. Many have high qualification standards, but if thats what you're looking for you might want to check it out.</p>
<p>As for summers and post-graduation, I know two FRESHMAN who got internships in New York City this summer and I feel that there are many more opportunities in NYC than in the Bay Area in that sense. Of course Hrteeexz, you're right in saying that during the summer anyone can go home or abroad to gain work experience. Quite a few like the idea of working in New York, though. I also know a bunch of seniors who have secured jobs in NYC as well right after they graduate. Quite a few of them are ORFE majors, but there are many others as well.</p>
<p>Hrteeexz, I mean only to say that this blanket statement:
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you know just as well as I that job/internship opportunities available in NYC or Philadelphia are hardly feasible for undergraduates studying at Princeton.
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is most definitely not true. You might be right about Stanford students getting more opportunities during the school year (even this may not be true, as skysongx explains above), but that is not commonly the situation referred to when discussing internships. I think you missed that I deliberately said "overall" to apply my statement to getting internships in general, all times considered.</p>
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Why, in god's name, would I be arguing for summer opportunities, where you can actually LEAVE campus and go to any part of the country you wish?
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Beats me :p, though it may be closer to what the OP actually asked.</p>
<p>Well I know that some people might visit NYC during the school year for interviewing, to visit, to check out places that they might want to intern or work at. Other than that, it's probably not the case that you would intern in NYC because its close to Princeton, but because its quite a well-known, business-oriented place on the country with tons of opportunities and if you're going to school a train ride away, it just might make everything easier or more comfortable. But honestly, Stanford and Princeton are both awesome, reputable schools. I really think that the OP should visit the campuses and decide which one is a better fit for him/her in terms of atmosphere, campus activities, etc. rather than worrying about the differences in academic opportunities. You'll do well no matter which one you choose.</p>
<p>wait... but what about the girls and the social life?</p>
<p>I mean, of course we'll get job offers if we graduate from either Princeton OR Stanford, but at which of the two will we get a more exciting college experience? Which of the two has better parties?</p>
<p>Also, how do eating clubs contribute to social life? And do Princeton kids go to Rutgers parties often or was that a false rumor I heard?</p>