Princeton Yield Out

<p><a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/05/13/news/12921.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/05/13/news/12921.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Note that the article says Princeton will be ED again next year.</p>

<p>Apparently the slight yield rate decline has scared them off from moving to SCEA for at least another year. </p>

<p>A mistake, IMHO. </p>

<p>Perhaps the enrollment management consultant report they have commissioned will give them the courage of my convictions!</p>

<p>Another interesting item: 55% of matriculants are male - the highest percentage of males at any Ivy school, and up slightly from last year.</p>

<p>Apparently females matriculated at a slightly lower rate, since only 53.7% of admits were male.</p>

<p>For the Class of 2008 at Princeton, the yield on male admits was 68%, while the yield on female admits was 66.5%.</p>

<p>sorry to reveal how thick I am :) but how does waitlist affect yield?</p>

<p>another thing: </p>

<p>" "We haven't gone to the wait list yet and it looks like we might not be going to the wait list this year," Rapelye said, adding that she was pleased the University was already "at the [class] size we need to be."" - rapelye from the article.</p>

<p>"I called Princeton-they said they would definitely be going to the waitlist this year" - akashbanal after calling pton. </p>

<p>what's up with that?</p>

<ol>
<li><p>There will probably be limited use of the WL before all is said and done, assuming they want to hit the 1,220 target class size. 67.6% (the claimed yield so far) means 1,222 matriculants , and there will almost surely be some shrinkage from that level via summer melt.</p></li>
<li><p>Use of the WL affects yield in that while people taken from it are matriculants, they are also additional <em>admits</em> --- and the yield rate is obtained by dividing the matriculant number by the admit number.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>with the new dorm (bloomberg/ellipse), princeton has the room to resort to the waitlist if it wishes, even if it pushes them above the target class size. i imagine that RD matriculation patterns have left a couple "holes," and that admissions will therefore make a few calls despite the apparent over-enrollment that will ensue.</p>

<p>I dunno. This past year Bloomberg was open and some dorms were still overcrowded.</p>

<p>they've added two large dorms in recent years in scully and bloomberg, and yet they only "subtract" one a year for renovation. that leaves a lot of extra room. also, i believe holder will be back online this fall, and while i can't remember what's next on the renovation schedule, it probably isn't as big as holder.</p>

<p>Hamilton's up for this year (Mathey), but wasn't it already closed this past year? I can't remember.</p>

<p>I'm confused by all this yield and waitlist talk. I hope that despite what Rapelye said, they'll at least take a few off the waitlist.</p>

<p>thanks byerly</p>

<p>phil - me too...at school, the people on the waitlists are so desperate i'd wager they're more in love with the school than the original admits. One girl got off the Brown waitlist today --> so happy : ) : )</p>

<p>Yeah, a girl got off the Georgetown waitlist at my school. It's so exciting. You're right, though, it almost seems like the waitlistees have more enthusiasm for the school than some of the matriculants...so let's hope some can get in! We can always use more pride for Tigerland :)</p>

<p>No kidding we have more enthusiasm...we have to lie to ourselves that it's worth spending time and putting in effort :P</p>

<p>f.scottie, what you say is logical, yet several residential colleges had students in overcrowded suites this year. I can't explain it.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately, I called today to confirm what was in the article. The adcom stated quited clearly that it was very unlikely that they will be using the waitlist this year.</p>

<p>After all, the people who decide not to attend Princeton after all are probably waitlisters at Harvard, Yale, or MIT. And, on top of that, we need a bunch of people to desert Princeton in order for Princeton to use the waitlist. Moreover, even if they do use the waitlist, there are several hundred people there as well. I don't know about you, but I am pretty sure that I am not at the top of that list. So, good bye Princeton it is!</p>

<p>thegreatgatsby - <em>smack</em> how dare you give up! (translation: if you want princeton, don't take yourself off the waitlist! things happen:):))</p>

<p>sorry this is kind of irrelevant, but is it definite that Princeton will:</p>

<ol>
<li>still be using ED for class of 2010</li>
<li>require the new sat 1</li>
</ol>

<p>the princeton uni site doesnt have any information on its policy for class of 2010, so it'll be really helpful if anyone here can provide more information regarding this. thanks :)</p>

<p>Apparently true in both cases</p>

<p>Byerly, what was the most effective thing you have heard done to
get accepted off the wait list? Do you think establishing an email
relationship with the adcom helps? Should the wait listee contact the
head of admissions with any info or only go through the adcom? Should additional recs be mailed to the Head of Admissions or directly to the
Adcom? Do they actually read what you send or just file it right away? Won't matter on this wait list but maybe others watching or
for next year's applicants.</p>

<p>Byerly, you mentioned a "summer melt" phenomenon. What's that?</p>