priority enrollment to be reduced

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<p>I believe the issue with Alumni schoalrs to be more than the promises made this year.</p>

<p>In defense of Alumni scholars, who were promised things in the interviews like my d, I would like to say: UCLA Alumni has fulfilled everything it promised to my student 3 years ago, she has given many volunteer hours to the Assn and to the school as required; they have given the scholarship $$ and free printing services. It is not free money, those hours must be logged and legit. It was the ONLY merit offer of the 7 she had that required service. Even the other uc that offered a larger alumni scholarship did not require service. I echo the above poster in how competitive the process was, and how my d looked at it was that ucla was recognizing her achievements like the other uc alumni scholarship she got with a research grant, dean’s scholarships and trustee scholarships she was turning down from other offers.</p>

<p>Sadly, UCLA beyond the Alumni office has taken away every perk she was promised or made the terms and conditions such that it was worthless: priority housing was actually only for one year (which was never said up front) and wasn’t anything more than res hall vs. plaza, no picking your own building; 12 points towards a parking pass (only works if you live far away, not for res hall or nearby apt), now priority reg is gone. This wasn’t her only uc alumni scholarship offer, and UCLA attracted her in part because of this scholarship and the benefits she was told about in her interview. As she is in graduating senior status for registration, it won’t actually affect her that much not now to have or not have priority. </p>

<p>However, as a parent, I think it is misrepresentation and unethical of ucla to change the ts and cs as much as it has. While it may have been unintentional on ucla’s part, the alumni scholars deserve for promises to be fufilled.</p>

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<p>I promptly signed out of Honors College when I read that article :P</p>

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<p>Well said, OC mom. Accurate and true, I couldn’t agree more.</p>

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<p>regents >>>>>> alumni</p>

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<p>That still does not mean it was written into the Academic Senate’s guideline to make it binding. Guess who else advertises priority enrollment just like the Alumni scholarship? AAP, PEERS, College Honors. Looks like they’re having priority enrollment pulled from under them.</p>

<p>Regents is advertised as one of the highest undergraduate honors. Applicants must be invited to apply. Sorry, but the truth is that, as competitive as it was, the Alumni scholarship is not on par with the regents</p>

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<p>Aside from the priority registration which just happened, I don’t see any misrepresentation at all. They made every point you brought up very explicit when they put the perks of the scholarship online</p>

<p>Although priority registration used to be a huge thing for such a large school as UCLA- 1/3 of the population had it which means it is no longer a “perk” and needed the desperate remedy that it finally received- but now that it is restored to just a select group like its original intentions, it might not be so bad anymore not to have priority. Now people will get to pick their classes according to their class standing like its meant to be</p>

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Look, I’m not trying to say it’s similar to Regents, because they’re two totally different scholarships. Regents is more numbers-based, while ASC looks for overall extracurricular and academic excellence. Also, you’re quite misinformed in that ASC applicants must also be invited to apply. They are screened for GPA, SAT and leadership potential, and then invited to apply; if admitted, that pool is then screened again, through the essay portion of the application. If the essay, GPA, SAT and leadership potential match what they’re looking for, they’re interviewed up to 3 times, culminating in an intense weekend of competition at state finals, in which they compete in essay contests, team leadership exercises, etc., in front of a ROOM full (literally) of alums and faculty, and are awarded from $6-17,500 based on their assessment from those alums and faculty. Now, with no disrespect to Regents (and I AM a Regents Scholar, fyi), the ASC scholarship is equally intense, and in many ways more competitive, than Regents, at least once you reach the state finals level. Out of over 55,000 applicants this year, there were just 2,800 ASC applications, and about 200-250 will be offered scholarships. Around 150 will accept those scholarships and attend UCLA. So as a fellow RSS member, I’d advise you to watch your tongue, for you know not what you speak ;)</p>

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Let’s go over this again. In the past 3 years, they have dropped priority housing, priority parking and priority registration. Only a fool wouldn’t see that UCLA is obviously not holding up their end of the deal. ASC is basically full of people who turned down the most prestigious universities in the country including Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, Notre Dame, Virginia, Columbia, etc. to come here, largely because of the perks they would receive through ASC. I think you’d agree that taking away another perk every year will not increase the level of interest among that group.</p>

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<p>Are people really giving up Honors because priority enrollment is gone? I didn’t join because of priority, but it has been one of the best experiences I have had here, and I’ve almost become friends with some of my professors. Through Honors Contracts and other research I’ve gotten to know one of my professors so well that she’s putting me in touch with her old college friend who now works in national security law and used to serve on the National Security Council. I guarantee you that without Honors I would have never made that connection. For me, that’s one of the best benefits of Honors, the opportunity to network.</p>

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<p>I never said the Alumni scholarship was on an invitation only basis, I said that was for the Regents scholarship. ANYONE could have applied for the alumni scholarships so that 2800 number is meaningless and only shows that you have 55,000-2800 lazy folks who either didn’t bother or didn’t know about the scholarship.</p>

<p>Just because you perceive that one must jump through more hoops to finally get an alumni scholarship doesn’t mean that it is on par or competitive than a regents scholarship- regents are prescreened from the very start in terms of who is allowed to be considered, and then their whole application are taken into account to make the final decision of who gets the scholarship, or else only the top of the top percentage of applicants would have just received the scholarship instead of asking for additional LORs/essay.</p>

<p>In the past 3 years, the only change in the perks of the Alumni scholarship has been the priority enrollment, which is the topic of this thread. First, Alumni scholars were never promised outright priority parking. It has always been with the stipulation that they had to be some faraway commuter student to get priority parking points. Regents scholars have always been promised parking. Nothing changed there, and there was no misrepresentation or change of terms of the alumni scholarship.</p>

<p>The renewal of funding for the alumni scholarship was always based on the stipulation that you fulfill a min amt of community service- you entered into that contract and that was the specific terms of this scholarship. You should already know that the money is not without strings attached because you willingly signed on to it.</p>

<p>Priority housing was something for athletes, disabled people, and people working in housing as an incentive. There’s nothing about priority housing on the terms of the Alumni scholarship online. The regents scholarship doesn’t even say they get priority registration, only that they are guaranteed 4 years of housing (although they have been getting a priority sign up slot, but this was not in the terms of the scholarship). There’s no breach of terms here either.</p>

<p>All the changes ocmom listed predates the 3 years that her daughter had the scholarship for. Had she read the terms of the scholarship, she would have realized the only difference was the priority enrollment, which again is the topic of this thread, and as the Daily Bruin article has already explained, the only groups left retaining priority enrollment status are the ONLY groups with legitimate reasons to do so.</p>

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<p>How can these perks be the deciding factor to “give up” more prestigious schools? Really? Is it that much more important to be treated like royalty (at the expense of other students)?</p>

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NO, NOT anyone can. You MUST be invited in order to apply. They invite a few thousand, and about 2,800 fill out the application and submit it.</p>

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You aren’t even in ASC, so I’m not sure why you’re arguing with me about this. ASC members were given priority housing until this year. It’s not online anymore because it’s no longer offered. </p>

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That’s not what she said. She said that during the 3 years her daughter has held the scholarship, that’s what has changed. Her daughter is a senior now. When she entered, those were the things she was promised. Since she’s been here, all but the money and free printing (the only things the Alumni Assoc. has direct control over) have been taken away. Juniors in ASC will tell you that when they entered, they had priority housing and priority parking options. I had priority housing last year.</p>

<p>But I’m glad you like stroking your ego. I’m sure alums saw right through that, which is why you weren’t invited to apply, or didn’t make the cut.</p>

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I’m not sure how it’s at the expense of other students…? If you were offered a 17,500 dollar scholarship, you’d probably give up other schools. Or, take it from someone who DID pass up more prestigious schools to come here: alumni mentors, alumni networking on a monthly basis, priority registration, priority housing, priority parking, etc. are opportunities that not all schools offer (plus the scholarship money obviously). I went for what was giving me the best opportunity to succeed. If you wouldn’t pass up Ivy League schools for that, then that’s your decision. Me, I’ve never regretted mine.</p>

<p>Anyway, this conversation is old. Whatever rant you want to go on about ASC is your issue. I’m glad to be part of Regents, and more so, ASC. Disregard it as a “legitimate” organization if you’d like, but this year we had a Rhodes Scholar and an Academy Award Winner. Try to keep up Regents, will ya? ;)</p>

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Talk about delusional. How’s the air up there? And I think its funny how you assume everyone who acknowledges the obvious (regents scholarship >>> alumni scholarship) is a regents scholar who failed to get an alumni scholarship, because it obviously takes a regents scholar to understand that a regents scholarship >>> alumni scholarship :rolleyes:</p>

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ANYone and EVERYone can apply for an alumni scholarship. The application is open to EVERYONE before they even know if they are accepted into UCLA, so even future UCLA rejects can apply for an alumni scholarship as well as a person in China with a 1.0 GPA and 200 SAT so long as they paid to apply to UCLA. You don’t need to be on a randomized list of those to be called or emailed to have the privilege to apply to a scholarship that anyone who paid a UCLA application fee is allowed to apply for.</p>

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OK, so its 4 years and not 3 years- bravo this alumni scholar has superb mathematical skills, skills only possessed by alumni scholars. These facts predate even that. Her daughter could not read the terms of her scholarship correctly because like I said, the parking policy was no different then either for alumni scholars. Maybe she just read the bold “Priority parking” and didn’t finish the sentence “for those who do not live on campus” because it was as plain and obvious as can be so long as one took a second to read it. </p>

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Just be very glad that reading comprehension was not a requirement for the scholarship because who knows how many others of you are out there. Alumni mentors and networking? Sorry to burst your bubble but this is available in just about every other college so long as you elect to not live under a rock.</p>

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<p>Your arrogance is amusing. And I am a Regents Scholar, so I’m not sure what that has to do with understanding how one is better over another…? You can’t compare the two, they have different requirements and are aimed at “recruiting” different people to UCLA. Sure, there is some overlap, but again, different process. They each serve their mission well.</p>

<p>Reading comprehension…? Actually I received a perfect score on the English/Writing scores of the ACT and SAT, so I can confidently tell you that “reading comprehension” was an incorrect word choice in that sentence. It doesn’t even make sense.</p>

<p>And I will repeat, whatever it is with the ASC bashing is just embarrassing for you. Why you’re so against it is beyond me, but as a fellow RSS member, I’m disappointed that someone of your “caliber” would be so demeaning to another student group on campus.</p>

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<p>You’re the one who started to bring in your arrogance and cockiness and “better than thou because Alumni scholars are greater than all” attitude into here. The sad part is that you’re riding on some delusional sense of self-entitlement on the basis of the Alumni scholarship because again, you lack the reading comprehension skills to understand what it is the scholarship actually entails. For example, the scholarship terms explicitly state that you must be a commuter student in order to obtain bonus points on your parking application, but you took this to mean that every single Alumni scholar was promised parking. If you carefully read the terms of your scholarship, with the exception of the priority enrollment which the Daily Bruin article already justified, you’ll see that the true exclusive perks of an alumni scholarship is essentially the money. Everything else can either easily be had or weren’t promised to begin with. To say that you were tricked out of things you were never promised to begin with is just absurd, and all the pouting over it is very childish.</p>

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<p>apparently someone reported my previous post…</p>

<p>anyways GoWorld, do save your arguments on how great alumni scholarship is for someone in the league of alumni scholars (peers, aap), because alumni is not as good as regents. </p>

<p>on a similar note…ur a regents? cuz i question how smart you are if you think that alumni scholars is better than regents.</p>

<p>oh, also, alumni scholars doesnt have any invite or prescreening, they literally call everyone and tell them to apply. someone in my hs who was “invited” to apply for alumni scholars and, like you, thought it was on par or better than regents got rejected from ucla all together. </p>

<p>also i doubt anyone would just give up harvard or princeton for alumni scholars…alot of alumni scholars are definitely not ivy league caliber…just ask how many of them got into one…</p>

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<p>Really? That’s only possible due to one of three reasons: those juniors in ASC are commuters that live outside a certain mile radius from UCLA thereby being able to take advantage of the explicitly listed terms of the scholarship, they have points on their applications for reasons other than being an Alumni scholar because if the prior point is false then being an Alumni scholar would be of absolutely no help in the parking application, or they are flat out BSing you (ie parking on the streets or illegally obtaining permit from another person who legitimately got a parking permit). This policy again has been in place for at least the last 5 years, and most likely predates even then. Hopefully these people have more integrity than to BS you, and you simply didn’t know the full circumstances of how they really got their parking permit.</p>

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<p>Note that I said parking “options,” not that they actually needed or used it. Reading comprehension dude!</p>

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<p>The only “option” they would have had was if they were long distance commuters. Otherwise, as the scholarship terms clearly state, there are no alternative option"s"- so how can something be taken away from you that was never given to you to begin with?</p>