<p>my cusin got into Stanford w/ a 2000, 4 yrs of bball, and 4 AP classes. How far will URM go?</p>
<p>If Stanford looked only at scores, sports participation, and raw # of APs maybe I'd be concerned. That's not the whole picture for your "cusin."</p>
<p>anyway can you find statistics out there on how many URMs applied to so and so college and how many were accepted?</p>
<p>I mean, does URM really really help that much, if you have another hook, scores like other "white applicants" and a few meaningful ECs, does that mean you're in, regardless of other stuff . . like essay, etc?</p>
<p>Being a URM won't soley get an applicant into an elite college.</p>
<p>Absent a single overwhelming talent,and assuming minimally adequate grades /test scores ..... being a URM is the single most critical factor in acceptance into a school like Stanford. This was brought out starkly in the Univ of michigan affirmative action case. I don't have the exact stats ... but something like 75% of URM's were accepted into the university with qualifications that would signal a presumptive rejection for whites and Asians.</p>
<p>There's a thing called evidence, blink, and you don't have it.</p>
<p>URM helps a ton for top universities</p>
<p>You guys have an exceptionally flawed perspective of affirmative action. Regardless of what you deem "reverse discrimination," Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford aren't going to accept a black kid with a C average and a 1900 on his/her SATs just to be politically correct.</p>
<p>well 1900 and an A- average and they just might</p>
<p>he took AP Bio and AP Cal AB, he got a 5 and 4... and im pretty sure he maintained straight A's... probably w/ an exception of a B or two.. he was like representative for athletics.. and uhh i guess good essays and recs... and african american..</p>
<p>^All A's, yo. This gets me every time, cause my GPA (3.73uw, 4.0w--for Stanford, 3.6uw, 4.0w) is simply not up to par with other accepted African Americans, which often scares me.</p>
<p>Anywayz, an African American or any other URM with close to a 4.0 and above 2000 on the SATs has a great shot at any college, but the high GPA is what really seals the deal.</p>
<p>lol, I think white kinds get better treatment in CA colleges than asian kids</p>
<p>umm... those arent bad stats, i have seen white kids get into stanford with those exact stats and one or two leadership EC's</p>
<p>I think the whole URM thing is going far beyond what it needs to. Its really irritating.</p>
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<p>Did you mean that 75% of the accepted URMs had qualifications that would be a "deny" for whites and asians? Or do you mean 75% of URM applicants were admitted, and some proportion of them had "deny" qualifications?</p>
<p>why does this keep coming up? i feel like almost everytime someone provides an example, it always ends up coming out skewed. scores and gpa are not everything (thank god). there is more to a person.</p>
<p>go to page 2 of this link</p>
<p>It has the acceptance rate of african americans at top universities and the regular acceptance rate. Its from 2005 tho...so its not brand new</p>
<p>actually go to this link...
<a href="http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.jbhe.com/pdf/2005freshmensurvey.pdf</a></p>
<p>Thanks pal ^ :)</p>
<p>Have any of you guys ever considered what would happen if asians were actually counted as URMs?</p>