<p>Anybody got any ideas for a B student, presently undeclared major. SATs slightly above 1200 math/verbal and searching for merit (must have) for affordability.</p>
<p>Wells near Ithaca NY; it is part of a group of schools that agreed to keep tuition low; was all women, I think now has men.</p>
<p>I just checked. Wells is a bargain it seems. Do you know what other colleges were in that group.</p>
<p>Well...not in the right states...but closeby...York College in Pennsylvania...cost is right and so would be the admission for this student...in my opinion.</p>
<p>$40K leaves a lot of room. Dean College is one, but I would say that there should be a number of private colleges that you can get at the $40K point. However, why not smaller publics like the SUNYs, Uof NE and other such schools? Most out of state public schools come in at about $30k.</p>
<p>York is a bit far... six hours by car. But gas is getting cheaper. How come these folks can educate kids at what are, relatively speaking, bargain prices and most other schools (state schools not withstanding) cannot? Are they spending less per pupil?</p>
<p>Excellent question as to the SUNYs. My concern is the current budget crunch I anticipate it hitting many state institutions hard. That could mean fewer profs, fewer classes, or cost hikes that rival some less expensive privates. Also, in general terms, the four year graduation rate is often better at privates.</p>
<p>I've heard very good things about York's programs. My daughter wanted to be in an urban area...so York was not on her radar screen. But I know others who looked at it or attended and liked it a lot...and it IS a bargain for a private school in that area.</p>
<p>Salve Regina in Newport would also fit...don't know if that's too far or not.</p>
<p>Some of the smaller SUNYs are very good deals with decent grad rates. What kind of a student do you have there? Any chance of fin aid, merit money? Could he get into Geneseo?</p>
<p>I don't think he has the scores or EC's for Geneseo, the SUNY Honors College, as it has been billed. Salve Regina with merit it is possible, but without it, the cost would exceed 40k. I don't see him being a merit contender there. Basically my S needs 5-7k in merit at a school in the high 30's to make a private somewhat affordable. We supposedly make too much for financial aid.</p>
<p>I will have to find a hook of some sort. Gender imbalance (Wells maybe). Perhaps geographical.. But he wants to stay within about 5 hours of home. Maybe Maine.... We live in Western Mass. I think he may have to do public OOS. Some of those come in around 20-25k, but some, UVM and UNH, are prohibitively expensive.</p>
<p>Wells is Co-ed and under certain conditions, some classes can be taken at Ithaca college and Cornell.
If your kid is science oriented, also check out SUNY-ESF (environmental science and forestry). It's a SUNY program with Suny tuition but it is housed at syracuse U. But again- the program is geared mostly towards science majors.<br>
i believe the website is SUNY-ESF</a>, SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry</p>
<p>Look at some Catholic colleges. I think Manhattan College, ST Johns, and Siena are some good choices. Maybe St Anselms, St Michael's, Iona. Hofstra used to be somewhat less expensive than many private colleges. U of Maine and U RI are popular choices for out of staters here.</p>
<p>Nightingale you say the four year graduation rates are better at privates than SUNY. That is not the fault of SUNY. Students can graduate in four years at a SUNY as easily as a private. I think one of the reasons some students do not graduate in four years is because they are not paying the big bucks that many privates charge.</p>
<p>As to budget cuts at state schools--yes this is happening. However, endowments at privates have taken a big loss too. My D1 is at a private with over a billion endowment, but the president issued a statement about hiring freezes, stopping some/most construction, etc.</p>
<p>It depends on the SUNY. One problem with some of the state schools, not just SUNYs is the large commuter population. Of course there are private schools with that population too. Not a bad thing, but if your kid is living there, you want enough campus life there on weekends and evening to give it a community atmosphere. Another thing that you see at a lot of the non private schools is a lot of non traditional students which again affects the college atmosphere, and also affects the graduation rate as it takes the part times students much longer to graduate, and some may go to college off and on, rather than continuously.</p>
<p>cpt- to the best of my knowledge, most SUNY's do not have large commuter populations. Stony Brook may have somewhat a commuter rep. as many of the kids are from the NYC/LI area. But I have never heard any of the other suny's labeled as commuter schools.</p>
<p>My son goes to SUNY Buffalo and the majority of the school is commuters. The smaller SUNYs do have a lot of commuters. Our local SUNY, Purchase is primarily commuters and non traditional students. A school does not necessarily have to be labeled a commuter school to have that atmosphere. That and suitcase schools can be tough on those kids who come from out of the area. When we looked at schools outside of our commutable area, I did make sure that there was a vibrant on campus community and that most of the students called the campus home. It can have an effect on the spirit, resources and atmosphere of the school if too many students are not on campus after classes.</p>
<p>Many/ most SUNY are not commuter schools. As cpt^ stated above, check it out . Commuter schools are more likely located near big cities (NYC for instance).</p>
<p>I am an academic adviser at a SUNY. The overwhelming majority of our students are not commuters or non-traditional.</p>
<p>I'm surprised to hear that about SUNY Buffalo. UB is pretty popular with downstate kids- and Buffalo to metro NY is about a 7 hour drive. Not exactly conducive to a quick week-end trip home.
Some schools characterize kids who live off campus as commuters. Might UB fall into that category?? I will agree that at many schools upperclassman may not live on campus but they are living in the community surrounding the campus.
Personally I would not characterize that atmosphere as a commuter school.</p>