problem about subject test

<p>I'm under a problem now. I just found that my US history score is quite bad from a practice test (scored a 530)</p>

<p>Originally, I was hoping to use US history as a test, but now i guess I can't.</p>

<p>Is it okay if I take both Math IC and Math IIC as a subject test since many colleges require 3 subject test? I know that the schools might not like it, but wouldn't it still be better if they saw:</p>

<p>Math IC: 720
Math IIC: 720</p>

<p>as to</p>

<p>US history: 530
Math IIC: 720</p>

<p>and plus I still need to take one more test to have 3 subject test. So should i take Math IIC + Math IC or Math IIC and US history.</p>

<p>edit: one more thing. since i'm going into science, do i HAVE to take a science test? my school has bad overall preparation and basically everybody fails in all test administered at a federal level. Is it better to score 500s on a science test or 600s on the lit test.</p>

<p>Fastfingers, </p>

<p>1) first of all, the College Board will send ALL scores available at the time they send to a college, so the adcoms will see all scores. </p>

<p>2) If a school is requireing SAT Subject Tests, they usually want apply the best TWO test scores, since the advent of the New SAT test format that includes the new Writing portion for the SAT Reasoning Test (formerly called SAT I). Check with the specific school's admissions website to understand what the requirements are -- few schools require 3 Subject Tests, unless you are home-schooled.</p>

<p>3) For many schools that require the SAT Subject Tests, they will want to see test scores from two DIFFERENT disciplines, and therefore, many (perhaps most) will not want test scores from only the Math discipline.</p>

<p>4) Again depending on the college, if you declare an intended major in certain science fields, they may want to see SAT Subject Test scores from Math (usually IIC) and a Science-related test. Otherwise, most schools look only for the BEST two scores (you can take as many of the SAT Subject Tests as you wish) from two different subject areas -- so a Literature test score in the 600 will be better than a 500's score in Math. </p>

<p>Refer to the admissions website of each college you are considering and check for specific testing requirements/options.</p>

<p>hmmm... i don't quite understand your response. I am fully aware that all my score are sent, but i don't think you answered my question yet. (i haven't taken the test yet)</p>

<p>My question is:</p>

<p>what is better:</p>

<p>Math IC: 720
Math IIC: 720</p>

<p>or</p>

<p>Math IIC: 720
US history: 540</p>

<p>when the school requires 2 subject test.</p>

<p>and to your response at 3. I'm well aware that they want scores of different discipline, but would it be better to give good scores from ONLY the math discipline, or give them bad scores from a test like history.</p>

<p>Fastfingers, I see... you're saying that you have not taken the tests yet, and so all these "scores" you pose are really hypothetical?</p>

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I'm well aware that they want scores of different discipline, but would it be better to give good scores from ONLY the math discipline, or give them bad scores from a test like history.

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<p>To be specific, do not just take Math Level I and Math Level II (formerly IC and IIC), again because schools typically want to see scores from two different subject areas, hence Math Level I and Math Level II scores alone may not suffice in a college's testing requirements (this depends on the college, so check the school's admissions website to verify).</p>

<p>You can take whatever SAT Subject Tests you want, and it does not matter much, except that if you are an intended Science major, a school may wish for you to take a Science-related Subject Test, along with Math Level 2. </p>

<p>It's difficult to be much more specific without knowing the school in question. Are you asking these questions with a specific college in mind? What school is that? Have you checked their admissions website. What does it say about the SAT Subject Test requirements. Also, what school do you have in mind in which you think they require 3 SAT Subject Tests?</p>

<p>Personally - </p>

<p>I'd take the Math 2c and then study really hard for another test (this can be USH, or whatever you're most comfortable with).</p>

<p>well the schools in mind are like the typical ivy and NYU and some other top premed with safety schools in mind that doesn't require Subject SAT test.</p>

<p>I know taking Math IC and Math IIC is not a perferable thing, but should I use it as a last resort since I know I won't be doing well on the USH test.</p>

<p>well how about this, i have the official study guide for all SAT subject test. I'm going to try taking all the test and post what I got on the practice test. I just have to keep in mind that I don't have much time to study for subject due to my time schedule.</p>

<p>btw, i'm asking this because the signup deadline for november subject test is september 29 so I really have to decide my 3 subjects soon.</p>

<p>Heres what I got on my practice so far:</p>

<p>Math IIC: 660 (I think I could do better. I never thought time would be so cruel for me)</p>

<p>US History: 540 (really hard for me. Last 30 problems, I missed 75%. I hate the test too. It complete drains my energy.)</p>

<p>Heres my SAT reasoning test scores that I anticipate:</p>

<p>Math: 740+
Reading: 650
Writing: 700</p>

<p>Fastfingers,</p>

<p>It's been confirmed again and again that SAT "practice test" scores do not always correspond to actual scores from a "real test". </p>

<p>Quite candidly, you sound a bit confused about the purpose for the SAT Subject Tests, and it may serve you well to speak with your H.S. counselor. The reason why most schools would not prefer you to take the Math Level I AND the Math Level II tests is because they are both in the same academic subject area. The reason for the SAT Subject Tests is that many colleges want to see the additional information for decision-making purposes. Most colleges do not care what two subject tests you take -- and, of course, you can take as many tests as you want over multiple test administrations, and the college adcoms will use the best two tests scores you have from different subject areas. In some cases, there are schools who do not want you to take the Math Level I (formerly Math IC) and will not accept that score -- the University of California system, for instance, will no longer accept Math Level I test scores. Additionally, some schools will want to specific Subject Tests, especially for intended Science majors, which often require the Math Level II test and another Science-related test.</p>

<p>As I mentioned earlier, when the College Board submits SAT tests scores, they will submit all SAT tests taken, whether the Reasoning Test (formerly SAT I) or the Subject Tests (formerly SAT II). </p>

<p>Here's my recommendation: For the SAT Subject Tests, take the two or three tests you feel you can best excel in. If you feel that Math is a strong suit of yours, take the Math Level II test (I suggest this only because many colleges no longer accept Math Level I test scores -- again, check with specific colleges you have an interest in.) Also, choose at least one or two OTHER subject area test(s), such as in history, english/literature or foreign language. Good luck to you.</p>

<p>ah thanks for the response. Well I honestly do want to take a more diverse range of subject areas as to focusing on math. The primary problem is that I am in no way ready for those test and some schools such as the ivies require 3 subject test.</p>

<p>Currently, I'm struggling to find even ONE subject that I can score over 600 that isn't math related. This is why I feel like I'm forced to take both the math test. I mean... which is better. To score poorly on bio/history test or to score well on a Math level 1 test and leave the colleges guessing.</p>

<p>But anyways... I just took 2 more practice test and heres what I got:</p>

<p>Biology-E : 590 (this may sound sad, but I was actually surprised on how many questions I answered correctly on the ecology section when I checked my answers)</p>

<p>Biology-M: 560</p>

<p>I would really love to take some science test, but I'm in no way capable of studying last second for these test. I feel like my school just hasn't prepared any of there students enough(note my low scores. I actually had the first or second highest grade in Biology and nearly highest grade in all my science classes. yet, my scores are not even average)</p>

<p>Actually, I don't think you have to decide now... I believe when I took the SAT IIs a few years ago, you could switch which tests you're taking on the day of. I think they just give you a big booklet with all the tests in it, and you mark which ones you're taking. You should look into this.</p>

<p>Also... have you considered studying? The US SAT II is really easy because there's a pretty big curve. If you study the material and learn some good test-taking strategies, I bet you could improve your score at least 100 points.</p>

<p>I would love to consider studying, but right now I have to worry more about the SAT Reasoning test which is october. After October, I have my application to worry about since deadline is november 15th for ED and I also have financial forms. I just don't feel like I have enough time to study.</p>

<p>So hypothetically... if you were adcom and you HAD to take one of these students, who would you take</p>

<p>Student 1 and Student 2 are identical except...</p>

<p>Student 1 subject test score:
Math IC: 720
Math IIC: 720
Biology-E: 600</p>

<p>or....</p>

<p>Student 2 subject test score:
Math IIC: 720
Biology-E: 600
US History: 560</p>

<p>Who would you rather take if you had to pick one.</p>