<p>^^The real issue is the OP’s high school transcript policy, which is independent of test taken.</p>
<p>Re cheating: if you google around you’ll find articles intimating that kids would sign up for multiple subject tests but focus most of their time on one of them, and using ~two hours to complete one test. The second test they would just skip thru quickly, not caring if the score is <500 since it can be ignored with “choice”. Since the CB proctor does not care which test is being taken in which order, Choice enables a student to spend a whole lot of time on one test, by just flipping back to the first test in the second hour. Of course, the process can be reversed on Test Day #2.</p>
<p>Cheating and fraud? Absolutely. But, if caught, the only “penalty” is cancellation of that day’s test. Nothing more.</p>
<p>And, IMO, this is the real reason that Yale (and a few others) probably want all scores. Since Yale does not superscore the ACT, they only need the best score report from Iowa.</p>
<p>“My parents are both lawyers from top-5 schools in the country, so I have some legal muscle behind me.”</p>
<p>My wife and I are fortunate to both be near the top of our professions. Law degrees, Masters from so called elite schools. And if my kids EVER made a statement like that above, I would put them on an iceberg and float them out to sea. </p>
<p>^^^^^what in the hell’s wrong with you lol?</p>
<p>This is a very old issue and one that has been debated ad nauseam on College Confidential. For years, I have been recommending parents and students to obtain and check transcripts from the day high school starts, put the district on notice that the students and his or her parents are OBJECTING to the collection and distribution of any records obtained outside the four walls of the school, put The College Board on notice that NONE of the student standardized tests can be distributed without prior contents, and … most importantly NEVER, EVER disclose the name of the high school and complete any survey. It is your right to leave everything black except your name, address, and social security number.</p>
<p>It cost very little money to send certified letters REQUESTING privacy that contain a given deadline to comply. If the administrator at the HS refuse, elevate it to the next level, and go up until you obtain satisfaction. </p>
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<p>There are other issues at stake. The first is to define HOW the high school obtained the records from the College Board. Chances are that records are shared because of the PSAT. This, however, does not provide an automatic consent for further releases of test scores to the school. The other issue is one of responsibilities. Are the HS willing to ensure the accuracy of their reports? After all, there is a reason why colleges do NOT accept the unofficial reporting of test scores and require students to pay for official disclosed scores. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that there ARE NO reasons why the high school should obtain a SAT or ACT score, and it is a practice that should be defied openly and repeatedly.</p>
<p>BB, you may remember my position about the differences how schools treated School Choice. At the time this latest brouhaha started, I opined that the sillver lining would be that the schools would close the ACT “loopholes.” Well, Yale is one of the schools (with Stanford and a few others) that shared my point of view:</p>
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<p>The next one will be stop using that nutty science ACT component as a replacement for a SAT Subject Test. Time will tell!</p>
<p>Nightsky: I don’t know what your issue is. I’m sorry if what I said came across as arrogant. My point was that I felt i was being done an injustice and that I have two well-trained lawyers in the house - a fortunate situation for me.</p>
<p>So i talked to the principal again today. He said the administration was having a meeting after school to discuss the issue, and that he personally is pushing for the school to take all the SATs off the transcript, leaving score-reporting solely to the student. I’m crossing my fingers, and I’ll post the results tomorrow.</p>
<p>My advice is if you are feeling like the “bad” 2290 is going to cause you great stress and difficulty in this college application process, it is time to right now really assess how you are going to get through this process intact.</p>
<p>Wow, you need to calm down. Colleges won’t care if you got a 2280 the first time. They will look at the 2400. Regardless, you shouldn’t be fighting so hard. A 2280 is an excellent score that could have helped you get into any Ivy League.</p>
<p>If you don’t want your scores submitted to your HS, call CB and ask them to take your school’s code off the admission ticket/record. I did, and it worked. On your ticket it just shows up as 00000 in the HS part.</p>
<p>Xiggi, school does not have S’s SSN. Sure, the school system asked for it, but too bad – they don’t need it. S has a student number that works just fine.</p>
<p>Issue: valid. OP reaction to specific case: tizzy. I agree with passthepotatoes. (a few people have said that the 2290 wasn’t bad, but nobody has said congratulations for your 2400. Can’t get any better than that).</p>
<p>For the OPs original question: sending both scores is not going to hurt as they will use for admission, depending on college, either the highest score from a single test or the highest subscores from multiple tests. If you are intending to apply to ivies, you have another issue to consider. Some of them will be requiring that applicants submit all scores, something you will confirm you will do on your application. Now assume you succeed in getting scores removed from your transcript. That college that requires you to send all scores will likely notice they are missing from your transcript while everyone else applying from your school has their scores on the transcript. Needless to say that could raise some suspicion as to whether you are complying with the college’s requirement that you send all scores.</p>
<p>Thanks owilce and zap. Zap, i don’t know about your case, but for me it really helped to talk to people at the top of the food chain. My guidance counselor, director of guidance, and college placement director weren’t very helpful or understanding. It was eventually my principal who helped me out.</p>
<p>ACT and College Board are a little different. College Board will automatically send high schools copies of score reports (CD, hard copy, electronic delivery) if the high school has a certain number of students testing. School districts can order the same reports for all the high schools in their district. High schools (and districts) pay ACT for a monthly score reporting service.</p>
<p>So far as I know, the only way for a student’s score to not be reported to a high school is to leave the school code blank.</p>
<p>At this point, due to privacy issues, more and more school districts are removing college entrance test scores from transcripts.</p>
<p>Our school system, just recently stopped inputting standardized scores on transcripts as well.</p>
<p>The OP needs to be reminded that if he/she is applying to the range of schools that DO NOT participate in scorechoice then he/she MUST submit ALL scores. As such it appears it’s “six of one, half of dozen of the other”. If the OP decides to take whatever risks thats associated with not adhering to these colleges request then he/she would suffer whatever consequences they are.</p>
<p>However if OP is applying to schools that will take whatever scores student submits, then all is well.</p>
<p>Ya my school puts PSAT scores on its transcript…when collegeboard specifically states that PSAT socres are NOT shown to colleges…I wonder how its going to turn out if someone asks them to remove PSAT scores.</p>
<p>Especially with the score choice, I dont think your school has the right to put SAT scores on transcripts.</p>