<p>hi... after looking it all over, GT is a very likely pick for me.
In terms of quality of life...
compared to the average university, how busy would my life be if i was a management major in a frat?
ppl always say tech is a lot of work, but is that for everyone or just the engineers?</p>
<p>Mostly the engineers, but you're still going to have an above average homework amount compared to your average Management program at other schools.</p>
<p>anyone else?</p>
<p>cb21 is right...for example, i think everyone has to take a computer science course...something not required at most places</p>
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hi... after looking it all over, GT is a very likely pick for me.
In terms of quality of life...
compared to the average university, how busy would my life be if i was a management major in a frat?
ppl always say tech is a lot of work, but is that for everyone or just the engineers?
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<p>My roommate and I are both Management majors. He is in a frat but I'm not. I hope my answer will help you.</p>
<p>I plan to attend graduate school. Last semester, I made a 4.0, and I believe I can maintain that this semester, as well. However, if graduate school were not my goal, then my life would be much easier. I could probably study a half or even two-thirds less and still have a 3.0. (I study about 27 hours per week.)</p>
<p>My roommate studied far less than I did last semester. Consequently, his GPA was less than 2.5. He spent most of his time at the house; he didn't budget enough time for his classes.</p>
<p>To answer your question, your life would be very busy if you chose Management and pledged a frat, but it wouldn't be from your classes. It would be from the frat. You still need to study for your classes, yes, of course, but you don't need to go "above and beyond" for them.</p>
<p>I personally think our reputation as a school with a lot of work is overrated. Our workload is very manageable. Procrastination makes it seem that there's a lot when in reality, it's quite feasible.</p>
<p>Engineers have a superiority complex here. That's fine - we are a Tech school, after all. But, don't buy their crap about "OMG! My life is so hard!!!111one" If you can spend all day playing WoW, then your life is not hard.</p>
<p>"I personally think our reputation as a school with a lot of work is overrated. Our workload is very manageable. Procrastination makes it seem that there's a lot when in reality, it's quite feasible."</p>
<p>What are you talking about man? You're studying Management, one of the easiest degrees at this school. Some how that makes you all knowing on what the actually workload is like for engineering majors?</p>
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What are you talking about man? You're studying Management, one of the easiest degrees at this school. Some how that makes you all knowing on what the actually workload is like for engineering majors?
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<p>Since I myself do not study engineering, I am not "all knowing" about the engineering workload. Furthermore, I don't deny that Management is an easy major. Having said that, I fail to see why you can pass judgment on my major whereas I cannot do the same for yours.</p>
<p>As far as personal experience goes, last semester, I took MATH 2403, which is required only for math, physics, and engineering majors (with the exception of IE.) I may not have been the highest performing student out of both sections, but I beat many of my engineering peers since I earned an A in the course and the average GPA was 2.7. If I took four classes like MATH 2403 per semester, I fully recognize that I would have to do more than I do now. A lot of work? Sure. An unbearable load? Absolutely not.</p>
<p>Engineering is not an easy major. However, based on my own experience and my observations, I believe that our school's work load level is overrated. If it really were as bad as it is made out to be, then why is it that you can find ChemEs playing WoW and MEs playing poker all day?</p>
<p>Though you may be correct in your statement fabrizio, there IS a reason why students switch out of Engineering and go into Management (or IE).</p>
<p>Having said that, all my friends in IE do not complain about their major being hard, but my friends in every other engineering major do.</p>
<p>It's commendable that you made an A and beat us 'engineers', but you are mistaken in one point in your argument. You claim that our other classes are much like MATH 2403 and thus by taking 4 classes like MATH 2403 you'd have to do more work than you do now. This is not only WRONG, but it is absurd. You cannot compare Engineering courses (especially in the EE, BME, and AE department) to such classes as 1000-2000 level MATH courses.</p>
<p>You are severely underestimating our workload. Not only that, those same ChemE majors you speak of that play poker and play WoW all day have little to zero social life. Thus, they can still maintain decent grades while playing games. If you branch out and find ChemEs who don't do that, you will see that they balance school with a social life.</p>
<p>Broaden your observational skills.</p>
<p>PcEhAoCsE - I couldn't have said it any better myself. I took 2403, got an A, and only wished my engineering classes were as easy and consumed the same small amout of time. </p>
<p>I'm dumb founded how someone could take a 2nd yr math class (required for engineers, physics, etc) and think that there would be a linear comparison to ANY engineering degree. I can only assume he thinks the same about physics or any other degree that requires differential equations. Did you take your intro CS class? I'm sure 4 of those a semester is equivalent to the actually CS curriculum.</p>
<p>Btw, those kids playing games all day long probably won't be around for a while. Also, some kids study only at night, how would you know?</p>
<p>I fully acknowledge that there is a reason why some students switch majors from engineering to management - our major is easier than yours.</p>
<p>Perhaps you two take issue at my last two paragraphs of post 5.</p>
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I personally think our reputation as a school with a lot of work is overrated. Our workload is very manageable. Procrastination makes it seem that there's a lot when in reality, it's quite feasible.</p>
<p>Engineers have a superiority complex here. That's fine - we are a Tech school, after all. But, don't buy their crap about "OMG! My life is so hard!!!111one" If you can spend all day playing WoW, then your life is not hard.
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<p>Based on my experience, procrastination can really make the amount of work seem greater than it actually is. For example, let's say I start a CS homework assignment on the day it was assigned and space my work such that I finish and submit it the day before it is due. Let's say that another student starts the same assignment from the same starting point eight hours before it is due. Which one of us is more likely to say, "I have a ton of work to do"?</p>
<p>I won't retract my statement that engineering students here have a superiority complex. Whenever engineers ask me, "What is your major?" my response always prompts either a subtle split-second stink-eye or the follow-up question, "Did you start out as Management?" Looking back at my post, though, I admit that I phrased it very poorly, as I seemed to imply that all engineers are like that, which is false.</p>
<p>I detect a slight Catch-22 here with respect to classes. Both of you say your workloads are far greater than mine, that my classes are far easier than yours are and require far less time. But, when I said that I did well in a class that is a requirement for your majors but not for mine, you both stated that the course is an easy one, nothing to be proud of. Seems like the only way I can earn your respect course-wise is to take your major-specific classes.</p>
<p>vblick, 2403 is a second-year math class, yes. It's also the last math class for pretty much every engineering major except for IE, which doesn't require 2403 in the first place. Please don't mislead by suggesting that it's just part of the math sequence when it is the end of the math sequence for you guys.</p>
<p>I have taken my intro CS, which was not 1371 and was a lot easier than 1371. If you want to say that four classes like 1371 per semester is equivalent to the real CS curriculum, I can believe that. 1371's not easy from what I've heard and seen, but if four "1st yr" CS classes per semester can be "linear[ly] compar[ed]" to the CS degree, then I guess you don't think too highly of CS majors, either.</p>
<p>Yes, I know that some students study at night; I roomed all year with someone who prefers studying at night. It varies per person, and I believe that some genuinely study best at night. Based on my limited observations of my roommate and some of my hallmates who have chosen to pull all-nighters in the study room, though, they don't really get much work done. For example, when I was helping my roommate prepare for his final two days ago, he asked me the exact same question with the exact same wording three times in a six-minute span. This might indicate that I did not answer the question very well. But, he never said, "That doesn't make sense" or "Can you repeat that?" Had he said any of those, I would've assumed responsibility for not offering a good explanation. He didn't, though, and it was clear to me that he was too tired to retain the information. A week ago, two of my hallmates pulled an all-nighter to finish an English paper. According to them, they started at 2:00 AM, did nothing until 4:00 AM, worked for two hours, and then fell asleep at 6:00 AM. In other words, it took them four hours to get two hours worth of work done. What's more, the paper was not done when they woke up. That's not very efficient. Then again, maybe there are others who are very efficient at night. I just don't know them.</p>
<p>fabrizio,</p>
<p>I would like to end on a positive note. There's no need for arguing and bickering to arise on a forum deemed for prospective students.
Never once did I say I scoffed and looked down on Management majors. I will admit though, I look down upon INTA majors. In addition, I never stated that MATH 2403 was easy per se, but that compared to same level courses (BME 2210 is the only one I can compare it to), MATH 2403 took up far less time.) </p>
<p>From what I could tell, vblick was being sarcastic, though each CS class is unique to a program far as I can tell (1372 being C).</p>
<p>I will agree with you on the note that many engineering majors are lazy and this can come off as why many deem engineering is 'hard.' But it can also work both ways...because the material is so vast and huge, the students feel unmotivated to study soon after a long day's of lecture, thus explaining their nocturnal habits.</p>
<p>Given enough time, spreading out a huge chunk of work becomes easier, but you're doing the same amount of work either way.</p>
<p>Either way, I wish no bad luck on anyone. Good luck with the rest of your Tech career.</p>
<p>PcEhAoCsE,</p>
<p>Sorry about the wrong accusation.</p>
<p>I also wish you good luck and enjoy your summer.</p>
<p>Can anybody answer this question:
Is it really that IE that GAtech is much easier than other engineer major, especially compare to EE. I am going to attend GAtech next year, I want to major in IE or EE, just want to get some info from someone who knows well about this. Thank you</p>
<p>IE is generally considered to be the easiest engineering major.</p>
<p>"IE is generally considered to be the easiest engineering major."</p>
<p>yes, and I believe it's because the IE major take alot of intro classes to other majors. Like the first EE course for the EE degree and the first ME course for the ME degree...</p>
<p>"From what I could tell, vblick was being sarcastic"
yes, I was laying it on pretty thick too...</p>
<p>"It's also the last math class for pretty much every engineering major except for IE, which doesn't require 2403 in the first place."</p>
<p>My last math class was Combinatorics for CmpE. That was part of my 1999 book though. Looks like they changed it. Woo hoo for some folks. Wish I didn't have to take it because it was horrible and worthless.</p>
<p>"Based on my experience, procrastination can really make the amount of work seem greater than it actually is. For example, let's say I start a CS homework assignment on the day it was assigned and space my work such that I finish and submit it the day before it is due. Let's say that another student starts the same assignment from the same starting point eight hours before it is due. Which one of us is more likely to say, "I have a ton of work to do"?"</p>
<p>That's the problem with engineering. You're always behind. You don't do things the day before because you're lazy (some do), most of the time you do it because that's the earliest you can get to it. There really is a lack of time.</p>
<p>"I won't retract my statement that engineering students here have a superiority complex."</p>
<p>Well like you said, it's a Tech school. Usually the only time engineers even here about management is when someone they know has dropped out of engineering and switched over. As you know the schools are on the opposite side of campus so they kind of segregate the students for the most part.</p>
<p>Anyway, as i'm sure you can understand, math is math. Like I said, I took a require abstract math course which didn't help with the degree one bit. The differential equations course wasn't much different from the calc ones. You derive equations prove equations and solve problems. Engineering uses parts of that but in different ways. I mean you don't even need differential equations for EE/CmpE in my opinion. You really just need to know how to do integrals and solve functions. The pain in the @$$ part is all the physics that gets intertwined with it. Math is just a tool you use along the way to learning about the science of your degree.</p>
<p>so, can you compare the work load that I will probably have between these two major, ( hours of work per day on IE and EE)</p>