Providence

<p>You don't need a fake ID to drink there.</p>

<p>Coming from NYC, I don't think you'll be bored in Providence. If you keep yourself busy on campus, like most students, you might even forget it exists. Brown has tons of extracurriculars, just like any other large university. There are enough restaurants on Thayer Street to keep you from needing to wander anywhere else (except perhaps the mall from time to time). If you get bored, other places like Boston, New Haven, Cape Cod, Mystic, Newport, etc. are within easy daytrip distance. </p>

<p>Of course, if you really want the city life, you'll have to go with NYU, but keep in mind other factors as well (dorms, size of classes, quality of undergrad education) that might vary between these two especially depending what you're studying.</p>

<p>I have a bunch of friends from NYC who when they first drove into Providence balked, but within a few days were having an amazing time in the city and on campus. I'd like to go to grad school in NYC, but for undergrad I'm having a great time in a smaller city.</p>

<p>sorry if this is a bit late. I'd have to say that Providence is much better than New Haven. I've pretty much lived in both cities. It may not seem like it but, Providence is the second largest city in New England. (second to Boston) The general atmosphere just feels better. Thayer street is awesome... it'll keep you busy for hours.
In comparrason with New York, I don't think you'd be bored comming from NY to Providence. There's always some thing to do in Providence, and even if you do get bored, Boston is only an hour train ride away.</p>

<p>Having just visited Providence and Brown, I can say that I was really impressed with it. Although there are some bad neighborhoods (like in every city), there are many more pros than cons. The area around Brown is beautiful, Thayer Street is AMAZING, the public transportation is great, and the Little Italy section is very nice also (the restaurants are excellent).
As many others have mentioned, Providence is also close to Boston and Newport (which is BEAUTIFUL) if you need to get away from it. And it's home to the biggest mall in New England, which I'd imagine is a plus. I'm not sure how the mall is though, since I didn't shop there.
And I think it's funny that many of the streets don't have street signs.
Just to let everybody know where my perspective is coming from, I'm from Buffalo, which has about 100,000 more people than Providence, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be bored there.</p>

<p>Yet more proof that New Haven is 'safer' </p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=29553%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=29553&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.browndailyherald.com/media/paper472/news/2004/11/17/CampusNews/Awareness.Of.Crimes.Is.Up.But.Crime.Rate.Same.As.Last.Year-807666.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.browndailyherald.com/media/paper472/news/2004/11/17/CampusNews/Awareness.Of.Crimes.Is.Up.But.Crime.Rate.Same.As.Last.Year-807666.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"In September and October 2003, three assaults and 10 robberies were reported to [the Brown University Police Department on campus]. In the same [two] months this year, six assaults and six robberies were reported..."</p>

<p>Philly tops all your paltry crimes with EXTREME DANGER :)</p>

<p>Providence is a very poor city. 41% of school children live under the poverty line. With that said...Brown is on the East Side, a very wealthy and beautiful area. Most people living on the East Side, Brown students or otherwise, will probably never go to the ghetto areas of Providence. The southside is literally separated by a river. I would have enjoyed going to Brown, or Rhode Island School of Design, or living on the East Side. I would not worry about my safety here any more than I worry when I'm at school in Cambridge. There are many different events and Thayer St. is kind of the center of the Brown campus and East Side. It is very diverse and eclectic, with the Avon cinema from the 20's (or is it 30's) that is very beautiful and shows good Indie films on its one screen, numerous delicious restaurants, little stores, etc.</p>

<p>Well I live in Providence and your making it seem like the East Side and Southside are so far apart to where I couldn't hop in a car and be there in 15-20 minutes depending on where I'm going.</p>

<p>Hey, I live in Providence as well. It's not that bad. I went to high school on the East side and lived on the opposite end of the city. I mean, yes, the East Side is basically the "nicer" and well, can I say "Whiter" area of Providence, but I don't think anyone should worry about their safety...it definitely ain't Compton or Harlem, believe me. As for Brown University itself, it's located in a great part of the city...urban, lots of people, cool little shops and restaurants, nightclubs (well, that's downtown but extremely close to Brown), and numerous events that go on downtown. It's nice. :-)</p>

<p>The South Side and the East Side <em>are</em> close, but what EAS was saying is that most Brown students don't get to the poorer areas of town unless they're doing community service or something.</p>

<p>Providence is poorer than New Orleans, Miami or Newark. Here is a list of the 10 poorest cities in the U.S.:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-19.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-19.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>brownsville, hartford, laredo, providence, miami, newark, athens, new orleans, san bernardino, syracuse.</p>

<p>okay, seriously, this thread is scaring me. i'm going to brown this fall and have never been to the east coast</p>

<p>i'm from singapore where the crime rate is insanely low, and when they "find" homeless people they are often worth interviews and fairly large sized articles on the local daily newspaper. and i can feel safe taking the bus at 10pm and walking home from the bus stop in empty streets lit by streetlights.</p>

<p>i always had this impression that providence was a nice place to live in. can someone please give me a clear and objective idea of what providence is like?</p>

<p>Is there any way to prevent posterX from accessing these boards?
Because that would be wicked awesome.</p>

<p>The East Side is really nice. I feel perfectly comfortable walking down Thayer st or from the library to my dorm at midnight or 2 am, all by myself (I'm female). The houses are nice, the neighborhood people are well off, there is little crime.</p>

<p>If you want to pretend that the rest of the city isn't there and just live in the East Side bubble, it's definitely possible. However, I'd recommend that you get out of your comfort zone a little bit and try to volunteer in a low-income neighborhood. Especially if you grew up privileged and didn't see much poverty, it will be a great learning experience for you.</p>

<p>Just a few comments from a rising Junior at Brown:</p>

<p>Brown is not a gated community. It is a part of the city, and adds to the culture and history of Providence. The local residents regularly use the campus greens to walk their dogs and play with their children, and even to get married. At night, a number of (very friendly) security guards are posted around campus, but the gates remain open and the greens are kept well-lit (frisbee at night is not unheard of).</p>

<p>Brown is surrounded by the largest surviving collection of colonial-era houses in America. Many of these are owned by Brown, or are available for rent as off-campus housing. Architecture and color vary widely, and so it can be very interesting to take a short stroll off-campus, especially in the early fall or late spring. As a whole, the East Side is a very comfortable, very wealthy, and very safe part of town.</p>

<p>I grew up in Philadelphia, so read into this as you will, but I find downtown Providence to be very nice. It feels comfortable, and is stuffed to the brim with restaurants and clubs (Providence recently beat Boston in a Boston Globe restaurant survey). The "Renaissance" has resulted in a very clean city, with an attractive network of rivers flowing through the town. The railroad tracks were moved underground, making everything far more sightly, and the public busses look like old trolly-cars, right down to the wooden floors. However, there are very few residences in this part of Providence, and so it can feel like a ghost-town on weekend mornings (I actually enjoy this, though some may not).</p>

<p>South Providence is, indeed, something of a slum. I have volunteered at a soup kitchen there several times, and did not enjoy the area. For better or worse, however, it is far removed from Brown's campus. Unlike at Penn, for example, none of the "ghetto" areas connect to Brown, and relatively few of the vagrant types make their way to the east side. Those that do are often surprisingly skilled musicians, who actually add to Thayer Street's cosmopolitan feel (they best of these will even draw crowds).</p>

<p>As for "things to do," other posters have already mentioned Newport and Boston. However, Providence has its own scene, which attracts a decent number of large-name performers. In my experience, though, there are enough things going on at Brown itself that none of this is a big deal: as I imagine is the case at most colleges, there are comedy, improv, musical, and theatrical performances every weekend, most of which are of very good quality despite being student productions.</p>

<p>In case you are wondering, ^ was an excuse to not work on my term paper for a few minutes. :-)</p>

<p>The East Side is a decent place to live, as prithanox described, and has a few good restaurants and stores. The drawbacks to this area is that it is not nearly as vibrant as a downtown area (there are no major movie theaters or 24-hour stores/diners like the ones that you do have in the downtown areas of New York City, New Haven, Boston, Chicago, etc.). As the poverty figures that I posted above pretty clearly show, Providence is definitely not a walk in the park. The city does, incidentally, have a very good (even if blatantly false) PR campaign about it being a "Renaissance" city, led by one of the anchors on NBC. But a few years ago, two college students were randomly carjacked and brutally executed in the middle of downtown Providence, near Brown (<a href="http://www.projo.com/words/2004/20041215_st.htm)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.projo.com/words/2004/20041215_st.htm)&lt;/a>. And the city consistently posts one of the highest murder rates in the Northeast. </p>

<p>If you're used to Singapore, you will have a lot to learn about street smarts. If you become street smart, you will be ok, though. All things considered, if you stay out of trouble in a city, even in one of the ten most impoverished American cities like Providence, you are much more likely to be injured or killed in a car accident. This is why, broadly speaking, urban campuses are safer than suburban or rural campuses, even those located in very wealthy areas.</p>

<p>Printanox, thanks for your lovely reply! I am the parent of an incoming freshman. We come from rural northern New England so a city will be a very new experience for my child and I have to admit that I have moments of worry. I only hope that I am not falling into the trap of believing the posters who are writing what I hope to hear and discounting the posters who are scaring me!</p>

<p>You would think, if the Renaissance were really "just" a PR campaign, there wouldn't be an entire book written about it...</p>

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