**PSAT Discussion Thread 2015**

Question: If you look at the concordance tables and the data shared by @maryt2017, can you predict what the new selection index might be? She scored a 1470 with a SI of 218. The second concordance table says that a 2015 1470 is concordant with an old selection index of 223. @maryt2017 has a New SI of 218. So maybe we can predict that the 2015 SI that correlates with the old SI is -5. Does this seem accurate?

@likestowrite I don’t think so. My friend got a composite score of a 1440, which correlates to a 213, which was the 2014 NMSF cutoff for Ohio. However the selection index he got was a 212, only a -1 difference.

@likestowrite very close, I think, but not completely accurate. For example, my daughter scored a 1480 with a SI of 222. Looking at the same concordance table, a 2015 1480 is concordant with an old selection index of 226. And so for her, the correlation is -4, not -5.

@websensation Thanks!
@dongrae You probably did really well in the math section which is 50% of the composite score. My son got perfect scores on the reading and writing which is 66% of the index score. He missed 8 on the math.
@sincererlove No TASP email etc. No email at all.
@JuicyMango I was the same way. I had really good Verbal section scores and lower math scores. I was only commended when I took the test many moons ago. Thought I wanted to be a writer. Now I’m an engineer. Ha!

@likestowrite
I don’t think you can use the new concordance table to equate Selection Indices in this way because it does not take into account the distribution of scores between verbal and math.
For example, if on PSAT 2015 you scored 760 R/W + 710 math = 1470
or 710 R/W + 760 math = 1470. you would have the same concordance of 1470 PSAT 2015 = 223 PSAT 2014.
However, 760 R/710 M has a selection index= 2(76)+71=223; whereas
710R /760M has a selection index= 2(71)+76=218.

That is exactly what I was thinking @Plotinus

@Plotinus

OK, that makes sense. The total PSAT score is different from the selection index bc the total PSAT score is
(math SI)2 + (R SI + W/L SI)

and the SI for Nat. Merit is

(math Si) +(R SI) + (W/L SI)

Do you know what the concordance tables tell us?

@likestowrite
I am not sure how CB developed these concordance tables. The SAT/ACT concordance tables were developed by giving a suitable sample group of students both tests. So for the SAT/ACT concordance, SAT score x = ACT score y means that on average, a student who scores x on the SAT will score y on the ACT.

Maybe CB used a similar sample group testing procedure for the 2014 and 2015 PSAT’s. In any case, I think this is the general idea of concordance: “score x concords with score y” means “on average, a student who scores x on one test would score y on the other test.”

Of course, not all students are average.

I think the concordance tables are confusing. It doesn’t really matter how they relate to last years scores. This is a new test so the score cut offs are going to be different. Plus why are they scoring back to the old numbers? Isn’t the highest SI that you can now get lower than the old one?

@MichiganGeorgia
It is important to have a concordance between the old and the new SAT scores above all for college admissions officers who will be comparing candidates with the different scores. The PSAT concordances are a prequel to the upcoming SAT concordances.
It is also useful for, say, juniors who took the old PSAT as sophomores and want to be able to judge if they improved.

“Total to Total concordance table” will be of no use for NMSQT purposes.

However, one may use “Test to Section Concordance” (on page 3/4) to convert sub-score to old PSAT score and see if the total is in range based on last year NMSQT cut-off. Still it is only approximation.

I accidentally missed an entire free response section while taking the test… For some reason I thought it was a different math section that I wasn’t supposed to go onto and I didn’t realize til time was up. Do you guys think I still have a chance for NMSF?

Anyone know what time the scores are released at? Is it midnight? Or later in the day like ACT?

I called collegeboard and the guy said “midnight, but no guarantee” so its unclear.

So for math, is each grid-in half a point? or is each mc half a point?

Could someone link me to the page where you can log-in to see your scores? I’ve been searching through the website, but it’s rather confusing at the moment. I was able to access my scores from last year. Then, when I logged on again, I wasn’t able to see my scores from last year at all.

Wait did anyone receive their scores yet?
I thought they came out at midnight…

@angie414 Student Score Reports

For those who got their scores back, did you get the stanford summer program email/letter?

Can a teacher access the scores as well as the guidance counselor?