Psychology major & Human Resources?

<p>Basically, I am currently a freshman with a sophomore class standing majoring in B.S. Psychology. I've always being a huge fan of this major, however, contrary to my initial career goal (which was the clinical psychology field), I've now looking into the Industrial Organization Psych. My questions are:</p>

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<li><p>For IO Psych related careers, does it matter whether or not I'm a B.S. or B.A. in psychology? Because if it doesn't, I would love to switch from B.S. to B.A. for the sake of saving up some brain cells from taking math/science GE's.</p></li>
<li><p>I am currently looking into the HR career field. Our school (ucsd) does not offer a degree in HR or business administration. However, we do have management science, econ and human development. Do you think I should consider minoring in either one of those to make myself more marketable on resumes? (since psych major already has a hard time finding jobs according to all the forum posts?) If so, which one?</p></li>
<li><p>Last but not least, I know I'm only 19 and things can change very quickly within the next few years...but as a very "people" person, what other careers and major would you guys recommend to look into and research a bit more?</p></li>
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<p>Thank you very much!</p>

<p>I have a BA in psychology and am currently working as a human resources manager. The BS vs. BA won’t matter, so if you’d rather switch to the BA track, then do so. </p>

<p>Taking business or management courses will help. You will be taken more seriously as you progress into managerial roles if you have a background in these areas, as opposed to only “soft” sciences like psychology. As an HR manager, you need to understand your business as well as the other managers in order to successfully understand their needs for staffing, connecting with employees, and adding value to the organization. This becomes more and more important as you move up in rank.</p>

<p>Are you able to cross register at other local colleges to take business admin courses that are not offered at your school? The management science classes sound good, but if you don’t have a decent variety to choose from you might want to look around. Try to take an HR management or employment law course if you can, even if it’s at your local community college over the summer/winter break. It will give you a better introduction to the field and what you’ll need to learn.</p>

<p>You may also want to take some social psychology classes in conjunction with I/O. This was my focus area, and the intergroup relations aspect will be useful in HR and other people-oriented fields. </p>

<p>Ultimately the courses you take won’t help you get your foot in the door to get a job after graduation. Internships are vital in this field. You can also look for part-time, entry level HR assistant jobs that are permanent rather than semester-long. It is difficult to break into HR unless you have a lucky circumstance (as I did), or good work experience/internships built up while in school. The good news is that the field is constantly growing, and there are so many areas to go into: you can be a generalist (learn a lot about everything), compensation, benefits, recruiting, etc.</p>

<p>Thank you so much! I’ve actually being “stalking” your posts lately and all the suggestions you’ve offered for those “confused psych” major like myself are extremely helpful!
After talking to my advisor yesterday, I am now a B.A. Psych and Business minor because the business minor includes many administration-like courses. I am planning on enrich my knowledge in employment related stuff by taking related courses in other schools in the future. </p>

<p>I am wondering would there be opportunities for me to “shadow” a HR person? Some friends of mine were saying as pre-med majors they had opportunities to shadow some medical profession people to observe their daily working routine. I was wondering if you are aware of anything like that and who would be the proper person for me to contact, in the HR field of course.</p>

<p>As for internships and experiences, I am trying to gain experiences through volunteer work at our local school, does companies take volunteers as well or it would be a risky thing due to confidentiality of the company? Moreover, as I’ve mentioned before, I am currently a first year and getting an internship has been reeeeeeeeally difficult as a first year. I’m under the impression that in terms of applying for an internship (when you are junior or senior), the recruiters/person who is in charged values more actual experiences that you’ve had rather than extra curriculum activities. In fact, sometimes the organizations you are in don’t really matter to them even if you have leadership role. Is that true?</p>

<p>Also, I know this is like…kind of a inappropriate question, but as a HR manager, what does your salary looks like? And what were the lucky situation you were in that got you where you are at? (I remembered reading someone’s experience of being a retail manager then happened to have a HR position opened in her/his company…are you that person?)</p>

<p>Once again thank you for your time and kind replies!</p>

<p>In addition to that (sorry I have so many questions! :O), I am currently employed as a sale associate in a retail store. Today I just found out that I have a chance to apply for an unpaid internship at one of our local charter school (a school in which I am currently volunteering for as a tutor). This internship requires a minimum of 10 hours work per week and involves mostly administrative duties in traditional office setting. I was wondering would you recommend me to apply and quit my retail job if I was hired? Money wise I do have enough support from my family (yay for wise and generous grandparents) so I won’t be struggling financially if I quit earning money (just less allowance for myself kinda). I am curious whether or not this unpaid internship will grant me more useful experience and stuff for my resume in the future. </p>

<p>Once again thank you so much for bearing with my endless questions!</p>

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<p>Shadowing will be highly dependent on a number of things. For example, it may be easier to shadow an HR generalist than an HR manager, or it may be easier to shadow a recruiter than a generalist. It also depends on the flexibility of the HR professional’s schedule. A lot of information is confidential and it would be unethical to expose a shadowing student to it. However, if the professional you contact has a more flexible schedule then they may be able to bring you in for a few hours while they do mostly routine and administrative tasks. </p>

<p>You would need to consider what industry you were interested in (most have on-site HR, so do you like healthcare, production, retail, education, etc.?). Then call the main office or customer service number of a local business, ask for their HR representative, and see whether they are receptive to the idea (or stop by in person). You could even ask the HR reps at your college. </p>

<p>If you don’t have luck with this, you may consider asking an HR professional out to coffee or lunch to do an informal interview - ultimately a casual chat about their experiences, how they got where they are, the challenges of the field, etc. LinkedIn is a useful tool to send messages and connect with HR professionals local to you and see if they are more receptive to this than shadowing. Personally I would prefer the informal interview situation outside of work.</p>

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<p>HR Internships are more common during your soph, junior, and senior years, so don’t stress too much your first year. Getting a regular, permanent office/administrative assistant position will be helpful even if it’s not directly HR related, as you will build some base skills required in HR (phone etiquette, organizational skills, communication skills, etc.). The more time you spend in the position, the more advanced tasks you may be trusted with. If it works in conjunction with HR, you will get to observe the HR manager and help out when needed.</p>

<p>If you already have a job though, I don’t know if I’d tell you to quit for an unpaid position right now. Do you work in a department store or a small specialty shop (like in a mall)? Larger stores have on-site offices and may be open to transferring you into that position if an opening arises. Or you may be able to keep your retail job at reduced hours to accommodate the office position? Right now I think you should explore your options, then make sacrifices (like less pay) when you’re sure you want to stick with that path for a while.</p>

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<p>Leadership experience is always good, as the skills you acquire will transfer to many areas of your life. However, clubs will not make or break an offer on a resume in HR. Your knowledge of the field will be more important. Here’s why:</p>

<p>HR managers do not directly make money for a business by selling products or creating marketing schemes. But they do <em>save</em> the company a lot of money through staffing the right people, keeping complete files to satisfy audits, and combating costs such as unemployment claims or discrimination charges. </p>

<p>Misplacing a file or not keeping up with fair labor standards can cost a company a lot in hefty fines during audits and investigations. Not acting appropriately or in a timely manner during employee relations issues can lead to lawsuits (e.g., discrimination, harassment). Making bad hiring decisions costs the company in time and effort training associates who end up quitting or who perform poorly and make many costly mistakes. Incorrectly answering benefits inquiries can cause employees to miss enrollment periods or choose the wrong options for their needs. </p>

<p>For these reasons, you would not do a whole lot of direct HR work as a volunteer or an office assistant with little educational background in the field. You would probably be answering and transferring the phone lines, filing paperwork, copying/faxing, and other general office functions. But everyone has to start somewhere. </p>

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<p>Salaries vary greatly depending on geographic location, industry, and job title. Entry-level and hourly positions (HR assistants, call center associates for benefit enrollment, etc.) may earn $20-35k/year. Then you can move up into HR generalist, specialist, or management roles. </p>

<p>In my area, I am finding that a lot of positions want warehousing or production/manufacturing experience. These HR positions tend to pay well (managers may earn $50-65k). Retail positions at the store level don’t pay as well, but may range from $25-50k depending on status (salaried vs. hourly pay). Retail HR managers at the district/regional/tippy top levels can earn significantly more, ranging from $55-75k+. These of course would require years of experience and a solid track record of success.</p>

<p>Higher education (MBA with HR concentration, or a masters in HR Management) can add to your salary, but in many cases they are not necessary if you can get your foot in the door and work your way up. </p>

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<p>Yes, I am the one who was working as a retail sales manager when the HR position opened up in my store. I had never even considered the field before, but it went well with my educational background so I took a chance. I certainly don’t know everything, but I have been doing a lot of research into the field, career progression, and higher education options. I hope I was able to clarify a few things for you.</p>

<p>Since I had not pursued HR while in school, your journey may be very different from mine. You may even decide you hate HR :slight_smile: Keep your mind open to different ideas and options. Get as much feedback and experience as you can. </p>

<p>If you decide to get serious about a career in HR, consider joining SHRM as a student member (Society for HR Management - visit shrm.org). The affiliation is nice to add to a resume, but it also offers member content to help you learn more about the field and stay on top of common issues, changes in laws and procedures, etc.</p>

<p>@vienneselights - I generally do not suggest a psychology degree to those who are not prepared to take the challenge of being in an underemployed field. That poster seemed to lack direction. Many, many students take psychology because it is “easy,” or “interesting,” but do not realize what it’s like to make it into a profession. Most would require graduate training to become a counselor or clinician.</p>

<p>HR is a bit different. Most psychology majors I knew did not ever discuss this option, as most interested in HR either major in HR or business administration. Some come across it it I/O psychology, but many schools do not offer more than one or two courses in I/O. </p>

<p>To plan a career in HR from the start gives the student an edge to start looking for useful experiences early - experiences that the poster you referenced missed out on by switching majors at the end of their junior year. That left only one year to figure out what to do with a degree in psychology. That makes it very difficult to decide on internships, graduate school, etc. </p>

<p>So yes, if someone is looking to graduate with a degree in psychology and fall into a well-paying job the way a CS, accounting, or nursing student would, then they know very little about the field and the current state of the economy. If someone knows that it’s tough, then takes numerous preemptive actions to build a solid resume and marketable skills, they will likely succeed in whatever direction they choose. Transferable skills are invaluable (communications skills, emotional intelligence, leadership, organization). Especially since most of us will eventually work in several professions unrelated to our college degrees due to shifting economies and personal interests. Most people do not continue in the same career path their entire life like they did in the past. It is about constant self-improvement, growing, and learning.</p>

<p>I hope there is a way for me to express how grateful I am. Your patient and caring responses are soooooo encrouraging!! Thank you so much for answering my question so professionally and honestly!! It really helped, a lot! Thank you so much!!</p>

<p>Hi! Actually i am too going through the same kind of problem. My intended university does not have HR managment as a major. So should i take two majors like psycology and management? Or should i wait and search for more universities wich have HRM as a major?</p>

<p>But the problem is i am an international student getting an admission through tennis scholarship. So i dont think i have much choices of universities. So i am a bit confused…</p>