<p>I wasn't talking about Haas exactly, just all the UC's overall. This applies to the UCLAri troll and all the Cal trolls. The avg for UCLA is 3.6 so I dont' think Berkeley magically has a 3.9 avg.</p>
<p>Your logic is flawless Sternman. I don't know how anyone could argue with that.</p>
<p>i have read articles talking about how transfer students do very well after transferring. They are dedicated people, especially those who pick a school in hopes of transferring to it in the future. I am hoping to transfer to a better business program and it is stern. I didn't apply because there was no way i was going to pay 40,000+(the plus really matters when you are talking NYU) to go to a school right now. My family just can't afford it. Thats ok, UMD is good enough on instate tuition and scholarships. I doubt i would get into stern, i had a 1380 but my gpa was a bit low, 3.4UW 4.0 W. Stern is a great school. I think sternman would agree stern students are better than the average nyu student. That is why i am confused stern is being brought up with NYU's 3.7 rating. Stern itself holds a 4.2 rating. If stern was a seperate college that was ranked in this way it would be on the same level as UNC and carnegie. These rankings are not bogus. They come from educated indviduals that know a lot about colleges.</p>
<p>You took one class and you know what they are all like?? Wow we are back to this "logic" then? So you are telling me if I picked any one class to take at NYU it would define the entire school...not to mention every other private school? That is interesting.</p>
<p>Do you want to link me to these articles? Yes I agree cheapseats. I wasn't saying NYU as a whole was super-amazing or anything. Wharton, Stern, Tepper, and Ross are all good B-Schools that focus more on the east coast. Haas is good too (I NEVER SAID it wasn't) but doesn't focus so much on Wall St.</p>
<p>Wolves: Good contribution again.</p>
<p>I did not say UCB had that average. I said Haas does.</p>
<p>My only "thing" with haas is that isn't as good as Stern on the east coast which isn't necessarily bad but it's just a fact. I have been talking about Cal overall in all other cases espcially with the transfer thing. I don't think you should be able to go to a CC and take classes that are easy like that.</p>
<p>Fine, maybe not all CC classes are as easy as the ones I took but it is still not fair. I'm working my butt off competing with TOP KIDS at Stern and what's happening in california? These CC kids with almost no competitive environment are allowed to basically redo high school. I wasn't given a second chance so why should these kids be? Not to mention their schoolwork isn't that hard. DOn't even try to compare Community College courses with the courses at Stern and other top privates.</p>
<p>Do you think these CC kids pull all nighters studying? I've done that quite a lot.</p>
<p>Actually that is your opinion not fact. Also I wouldn't think of comparing them with Stern's classes because I have never attended Stern so my comparison would have no basis. Do you also have a full time career and possibly a family to support? Everybody is not on the same playing field period.</p>
<p>In answer to your question YES.</p>
<p>I've attended both a top public and top private. Not much difference except for possibly the pretentiousness level of the latter.</p>
<p>Community College is not highschool and you could have just as easily gone to one.</p>
<p>It is not a fact but I suggest you read the arguments from the Cal forum concerning the CC transfers. They bring up some good points which support many of my points.</p>
<p>"Do you also have a full time career and possibly a family to support? Everybody is not on the same playing field period."
Um.. it's implied we're talking about full time students here. I don't care about Cal part time programs. When people talk about Harvard do you assume theytalk about Harvard extension school? No. We're all talkin full time here.</p>
<p>It's basically he/she said here. I think CC classes are easy as I've lived in CA all my life and have taken them as well as had many friends in CA to share experiences with. You say CC classes are hard?? Okay whatever you're allowed to think that.</p>
<p>At least raise the GPA thing. 3.6 avg at UCLA is too low as not even the avg HS gpa is nto even 3.6. You might say CC is a bit harder than HS but guess what? These guys in CC are FOUR YEARS older and should be MORE than qualified to do well in community college.</p>
<p>I don't even know why i'm arguin this as community college is basically KNOWN to be easier than top schools.</p>
<p>I never said the classes were hard. I said they were not easy. You took one community class according to your previous post. I have also lived in CA my whole life except for the year in NY. I am also talking about full time students not part time. The fact that you are not aware that there are people who actually have more responsibility while attending school full time is sad to say the least.</p>
<p>I am sick of correcting you. I guess you will learn about real life the hard way. I am out! :)</p>
<p>"Wolves: BS post again. Privates dont' lie about scores and they have higher ones because of their competitive nature. Your post just shows that publics have to accept some "dumb" state kids."</p>
<p>He's referring to the FACT that privates can and DO fudge test score reporting. For example, it's well known that USC reports the <em>best</em> portions from <em>multiple</em> sittings of the SAT as data whereas the UCs are obligated to report scores from one sitting. This translates into higher (inflated) averages.</p>
<p>Calicartel, your logic and reason is wasted here. I wouldn't bother.</p>
<p>These guys are four years ahead of their time though. Don't list special cases. Yea what about that 18 year old genius who got into harvard and couldn't afford it 'cause he has 4 kids with his baby's mama and wants to transfer to berkeley.</p>
<p>sure he deserves to get in but he's not the majority now is he? My solution: Have a high cutoff Community college GPA for transfers.</p>
<p>Yes, don't try using logic, that doesn't really work well here.</p>
<p>Sternman, you cant argue that "im not talking about NYU, just Stern," and then also argue that "im talking about Berkeley, not just Haas." Thats completely contradicting yourself. Even someone who goes to a "community college" (how you describe BC) can figure that out. Ill compare high school stats with you anytime, im sure you arent that far superior to me.</p>
<p>You're not very smart. There are only two arguments here:</p>
<ol>
<li>Haas vs Stern on Wall St.</li>
<li>Berkeley as a whole including other publics. Please go read my other posts I NEVER EVEN MENTION NYU.</li>
</ol>
<p>Oh wow high school stats gimee a break.</p>
<p>and college stats once i actually get to college.</p>
<p>and if you actually read my post, you would see that I said you never mentioned NYU. You repeatedly dismissed the rest of your school, while including the rest of Berkeley in your evaluation of transfer admission. When another poster said the average CC transfer into Haas has a 3.9, you replied by saying that you were talking about all of Berkeley, not just Haas. You cant have it both ways, pick one.</p>
<p>Don't matter 'cause I'll be working for Goldman Sachs making 70k coming out while you're doni whatever with ur little liberal arts boston college degree. Then I'll be doing six figures when you're with your average boston college salary of 40k. </p>
<p>I was talking about transfers into ALL the UC's from the beginning. The only haas mentioning is that it doesn't have as good placement as Stern on WAll St. I never focus on Haas transfers, please point me to the post where I say this. Please read more clearly.</p>