<p>Got wait-listed as well, bummer.</p>
<p>Non-Ranking Private School
34 ACT - 2150 SAT
4.0 weighted GPA</p>
<p>QQ</p>
<p>I hate to tell y'all this, but wait-listed students at UT hardly ever get a place. This is just insurance to make sure that they get the minimum number they are looking for in case a large number of students that they admit decide to go elsewhere. UT already admits more students than will attend to begin with (I believe UT has a 60% yield if I'm not mistaken), and only if more of these students choose not to attend than normal will you get a place.</p>
<p>My advice is to pay your deposit for your second choice school because your odds are extremely poor of getting in on the waitlist.</p>
<p>Also, I hate to let you all know, but the Lege does not have the votes to get rid of the top ten law, despite what Bill Powers wants to think. The only people lobbying for the law are UT and wealthy suburbanites. Meanwhile, the rest of the state (the many public univiersities who benefit from getting UT's leftovers, as well as the vast majority of the population who don't live in the suburbs) love the top ten law and want it to stay. The rural Republican legislators as well as the urban Democratic legislators will fight for the law to remain on the books, and regardless of whether it passes the house they have the votes they need in the Senate to keep the law untouched.</p>
<p>If it does pass, it will affect the next admissions cycle unless the text of the law specifically states otherwise.</p>
<p>Basically, the Top Ten law is a great benefit to the vast majority of people in Texas who lack the extensive test prep and AP programs and vast extracurricular offerings our suburban high schools have over the urban and rural schools, and it gives these kids a fighting chance to get in to UT. As the university can't fairly compare applicants who have attended two different schools and had two different sets of offerings. It may not be the way the rest of the college admissions system does it, but it's the way UT does it, it's state law, and it ain't changing.</p>
<p>the voice of reason....</p>
<p>Did not get in...2000 SAT; 29 ACT; All AP and honors courses; top 20 percent at a small school. NHS, etc. CAPPED as well.</p>
<p>Isn't this the first year there has been a waitlist?</p>
<p>Yes, this is the first year for a waitlist.</p>
<p>What they need to do is put a minimum SAT/ACT score ontop of the top 10% rule. Instead of having only top 10% count lets acheive a minimum sat of 1300 (math/cr) too. The top 10% rule isnt fair to the kids from 5A schools, who rank highly among texas schools. For example, the top 10% at my hs started at around a 4.4 GPA and ended (valedictorian) with a 4.7619. Our top 25% was above a 3.9 GPA. I know many kids who were pulled from my high school early in thier sophmore year and put in HISD schools because the school was so challenging. The funny thing is some of those kids made top 10% with a 3.8 GPA.</p>
<p>It also blocks kids who are applying out of state from getting in. There needs to be some reform.</p>
<p>Is there anything we can at this point besides going the CAP route?</p>
<p>I just got an update on my status check saying:</p>
<p>After careful review of applications from a highly-competitive pool of applicants, we are not able to offer you admission at this time. Approximately three times as many students apply each year as we are able to enroll.</p>
<p>I'm pretty much taking this as a rejection. </p>
<p>It really sucks for me, I'm a student from Iowa, and I've had a really messed up senior year in highschool. My family moved to a new city, and my new school screwed over my GPA and class rank. At my original school, i was in the top 10%. At the new school, I was placed in the top 20. Also, the new school messed up my GPA when i transferred. The school graded in trimesters instead of semesters, and in the end, my GPA was somehow lowered. </p>
<p>All in all, looks like I'll be an Aggie this fall.</p>
<p>Whoop! :) I might be too. (Under review)</p>
<p>Hey, Rachel and ampzor, A&M is a great school with lots of great kids, many who, as you can read from this site, did not get into UT. so are heading to College Station. There will be plenty of kids from the UT -CC forums who will be whooping it up there in the fall ;)</p>
<p>I have one nephew who is a freshman at A&M, and another who will be heading there in the fall. They were diehard Longhorns who never in their imagination would have thought they'd be aggies, but they are really happy now!!</p>
<p>Does any other state do the top 10% thing?
It doesn't really make sense when you think about it........</p>
<p>California has something a little similar. Wikipedia explains:</p>
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The University of California accepts fully eligible students from among the top eighth of California public high school graduates through regular statewide admission, or the top 4% of any given high school class through Eligibility in the Local Context (see below). All eligible California high school students who apply are accepted to the University, though not necessarily to the campus of choice.
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Undergraduate admissions are conducted on a two-phase basis. In the first phase, students are admitted based solely on academic achievement. This accounts for between 50 to 75% of the admissions. In the second phase, the university conducts a "comprehensive review" of the student's achievements, including extracurricular activities, essay, family history, and life challenges, to admit the remainder.
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"Eligibility in the Local Context," commonly referred to as ELC, is met by applicants ranked in the top four percent of their high school class in terms of performance on an 11-unit pattern of UC-approved high school courses. Beginning with fall 2007 applicants, ELC will also require a UC-calculated GPA of at least 3.0. Fully eligible ELC students are guaranteed a spot at one of UC's undergraduate campuses, though not necessarily at their first-choice campus or even to a campus to which they applied.
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<p>Florida has the same type guarantee, but it, like California, doesn't let you pick the school.</p>
<p>If this were the case in Texas, you would be admitted to A Texas public university, not necessarily UT or A&M.</p>
<p>I wish they'd do that here!!!</p>
<p>Well, the other public universities in Texas are ridiculously easy to get into, you don't need any guarantee from the legislature.</p>
<p>They could guarantee admission to a flagship university, in TX currently UT and A&M. TX is planning on designating a 3rd perhaps UTD, Texas Tech or UH. It would really help boost those schools to guarantee admission to one of those but not necessarily your first choice.</p>
<p>Woops- took too long typing - responding to goldtx's post:</p>
<p>So are many of the other schools in Florida, but the legislature there has decided that UF and FSU, being the flagships should be able to accept the best of the best of the graduating Florida students.</p>
<p>And, many in the California system are not hard to get into either, but Cal Berkeley and UCLA, aren't forced to take underqualified students</p>
<p>Some like the Texas top 10% and others don't. You can't please all the people all the time. Some things that look good on paper don't work out in real life. I can see both sides. What I'm against is the rush to push through a change asap. That would be a slap in the face of all current high school students. They walked into the first day of freshman year with a promise, a contract, with the state. What about the juniors and seniors (even the lower classmen) who worked their rears off the last 3-4 years who would suddenly have the rug pulled out from under them if it were changed to take effect immediately. </p>
<p>THAT IS WRONG!</p>
<p>If there's any tweaking for future high school students then fine but, it should NOT be done at the expense of the current group of students.</p>
<p>txbass, the current system will not work for four more years. If the current trend continues, by the time the high school class of 2012 is starting college, there will be more top ten percenters applying to UT than there is room at UT in the fall. Something has got to give. (Maybe they'll create a "mid-year admission" group that starts the second semester after some students have gone abroad for spring semester and some have already dropped out - that process has been used at other colleges to squeeze in a few more freshmen...)</p>
<p>Even if some other public universities are designated top-tier schools in TX today, it will take years before people will start considering them as belonging in the same league as UT and A&M, if ever. I agree with those who have suggested that in the meantime, guaranteed admissions to UT (especially) and A&M should be given only to the Top 4-6%. This will provide these two universities with enough room to get the kind of student body they need to maintain their competitive edge.</p>