<p>“I love how this thread is turning into an AA battleground. Seriously - it seems like every other person on this forum hates AA with the same ferocity a KKK guy hates blacks … and would probably jump a URM if they found out they got into a university they didn’t…”</p>
<p>More absurd logic here. Anti-Affirmative Action = KKK ??? Classic Politcally Correct attempt to shut down even the discussion of racial topics. AND, it’s the ANTI-Affirmative Action people who think race shouldn’t be taken into account…it’s the pro-Affirmative Action people who are the “racists” and (like the KKK) want one’s race to be an important consideration.</p>
<p>You missed something here. The poster said “with the same ferocity as” not “the same as.” As in, I have the same passion for roller derby as some Nazis had a passion for genocide. Obviously I’m not equating the two - I’m just using an extremely unfortunate analogy comparing the passion.</p>
I couldn’t have said it better myself. This paragraph embodies exactly why I am against AA. it’s just a form of racism. if you hold unequal standards to different races, you are acknowledging that the races are inherently different (inferior/superior) AKA racism</p>
<p>“You missed something here. The poster said “with the same ferocity as” not “the same as.” As in, I have the same passion for roller derby as some Nazis had a passion for genocide. Obviously I’m not equating the two - I’m just using an extremely unfortunate analogy comparing the passion.”</p>
<p>I saw the “same ferocity as” part, but since out of all the things in the world that are ferocious about something (wolf chasing a rabbit, Derek Jeter chasing a foul ball, etc) you picked the KKK, I assumed it was no accident. “Extremely unfortunate” doesn’t begin to describe it.</p>
<p>^Really? I would think it would have the opposite effect (that is, it would be harder for more than 1 to get in) I mean it’s hard enough to compete with someone from your school, let along from your family o.o sigh</p>
<p>Still, though, you can’t not get a little disgusted by this if your are an Asian with national awards, a 2400, val, and president of many clubs whom Yale deferred/rejected. The only reason I can see why Yale would admit all 4 of them was because they were all black.</p>
<p>Some article said that one of them was even 56th in their class. 56th? that’s not even top decile. I’m not doubting their achievements [weren’t they all national merit finalists?] but still…56th just seems really low, especially for yale.</p>
<p>@southeasttitan: Yes, several URMs may have had higher SAT scores than you, but you were accepted on the basis of your literary merit by winning a Davidson fellowship and having a clear, distinct passion in writing. Although the SAT Math may have not been your greatest strength, you had near-perfect CR and W scores. Thus, you had a legitimate talent. Race, on the other hand, is not a talent in itself.</p>
<p>Why should we not gripe about affirmative action? It is simply euphemistic jargon for “preferential treatment” or more precisely, “racism,” by perpetuating the degree of inequality of among the races. Those who denounce affirmative action actually notice the implicit racism present within the policy. Racism, by its most overt denotation, implies superiority or inferiority among two or more discrete bodies that are divided by some explicit quality. </p>
<p>In essense, those of us applying to Yale this year are not “shallow” and “self-centered”; we are simply cognizant of a social injustice that is deeply disturbing and demands immediate attention. I, personally, am very receptive of liberal policies; in fact, our nation has for several decades been the absolute political and economic epitome due to a progressive series of liberal promulgations. However, overliberalization can be just as odious as the lack of any liberalization at all and affirmative action perfectly embodies this claim. </p>
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<p>I am not insulting Yale whatsoever. What I was implying is that Yale is among the top universities in the nation and by the implications of its ranking (which is completed on a fairly objective basis) has very competitive admission practices that demands very strong qualifications. Skin color should not be one of these qualifications, but unfortunately it will be for quite some time until a collective movement in American education is instigated to reverse such inherently discriminating practices.</p>
<p>I don’t feel any hostility towards the quads because they did not choose to be accepted. What did raise my brows is Yale’s gimmicky move for a publicity stunt. This move by their admissions office made me wonder how they evaluate their applicants. This thread, in my opinion, should focus more on berating the actions of yale, the party that actively made the decision, instead of berating the quads who simply applied to an ivy with high hopes like all of us. WHat we should focus on is the actions of said ivy: yale. No one can deny that this is a huge, and very succesful by the looks of it, move to get attention from the media (especially on the internet). HOnestly, i congratulate the quads and whatever accomplishments they do have but this news really did out me off of yale university. even if i get in come april, i’ve decided that yale isn’t the right place for me for their standards and protocols have dissapointed me. I do not think i will be happy in such an institution.</p>
<p>also, in my opinion, aa is reverse descrimination. shouldn’t we put the past behind us? and move on in a society where everyone is truly judged equally, on merit? not on the color of skin? this is the 21st century and ^ i agree. if even one institution eliminates its aa policy, more will follow.</p>
<p>@ thoss91. Well and eloquently said; and I was contemplating the very same thing. Quads themselves have no real influence on the decision Yale made and truthfully it does come off as rather a sensationalist/fanfare thing now in the media. It makes me worried to apply as well. I still like Yale very much tho >.></p>