<p>I'll be attending gsp next year with intent on transferring to stern bus school after soph year. on my letter i received 2 days ago it says i must take algera and calc with applications to bus and econ but then it states that i can skip it if i get a 4 or a 5 on the ap calc exam. I'm pretty confident i got at least a 4 on the exam but I don't know if i should skip the course or take it again. can someone in stern or anyone who's taken the class tell me if the class is worth taking or if its basically just ap calc all over again. TAKE OR SKIP?</p>
<p>Skip. My roommate is in GSP, I looked at his calc stuff, it's AP Calc all over again. You won't really do any calc in Stern anyways. Even stats, although calc is listed as a prereq, all calc does it let you understand that you COULD integrate some of these regressions to do other things than plot lines....even though we never did. Our teacher mentioned that the slope of the line = the derivative...once. That's all the calc he ever talked about. However, I'm an econ major and will probably take econometrics junior year, so the math beast has not been vanquished yet.</p>
<p>the thing is if i take the class, i can probably do well in it and therefore the grade will boost my gpa. </p>
<p>thanks for the response cardinal. other suggestions/comments are appreciated.</p>
<p>i plan on doing the gpa boost/slacker option and taking calc I again</p>
<p>on stern's undergrad bulletin, calc 1 and "alg and calc w/ applications to bus and econ" are separate classes but the course descriptions seem really similar. are we supposed to take both or just one or the other?</p>
<p>bumpity bump bump anyone else with comments/suggestions?</p>
<p>I think you may have to take Calc with Stern's new AP policies. I don't know what the deal is with transferring from GSP to Stern but all new incoming Stern freshmen are required to take at least one math course, depending on their level. Stern won't accept any AP credit. It might be different for students coming from GSP though.</p>
<p>the sheet i got said i could skip "alg and calc w/ applications to bus and econ" as long as i got a 4 or a 5 but if i skipped that, what would be the next level of math?</p>
<p>also, are "calc 1" and "alg and calc w/app to ...." two separate classes that we both have to take or are they interchangable like you take one or the other?</p>
<p>BigRed --- interchangeable. I believe Alg & Calc are easier. I took Alg & Calc w/ App (etc.). AP Calc AB doesn't cover integration though, does it? Alg & Calc covered: basic to higher-level derivatives (and various associate word problems, from cost/revenue/profit to growth rates to radioactive decay rates, etc.), partial derivatives, and basic integration. Nothing close to the real deep concepts of AP Calc BC.</p>
<p>(BigRed, after Alg&Calc, Stern students move onto Stats, I guess. If you're a Statistics major, I believe you have to take Calc II, Calc III, and Linear Algebra...but I'm not positive. Check the Stern bulletin.)</p>
<p>I didn't take the AP tests because my teacher was an old hack who liked talking about Britney Spears and Temptation Island...and because I was lazy. I took both AB and BC courses during my junior year of high school, and didn't touch Calc after that (except for Stats senior year, which really doesn't use real calculus concepts). I rarely went to class, and when there were quizzes, I would just review for a couple hours before to refresh my (poor) memory and would be fine. Additionally, my professor (Heymann) allowed us one 8 x 11 cheat sheet per quiz, which was more than enough. For the midterm, we could use all past cheat sheets + one extra; for the final, all past + two extra. Definitely not a perk I was ever granted in high school...beats programming stuff into your calculator.</p>
<p>Personally --- bypass it if you can. But that's because college is too expensive to take classes to boost your GPA :-)</p>
<p>ap calc ab does cover integration. if i bypassed the class wat would i take next, stat? i also wouldnt' mind having an easier freshmen year, to ease into college life.</p>
<p>ya half of AP calc AB is integration. </p>
<p>do we take alg and calc w/ applications to bus and econ or calculus 1?</p>
<p>i remember hearing we had to take alg and calc w/ app;however the letter i got told me to take calc 1.</p>
<p>BigRed -- there is no official math "sequence" in Stern; it basically forms itself. If you bypass Calc, then you have fulfilled that requirement. Stats is another requirement. If you take the AP test, you can take a placement test when you get to Stern, whcih can qualify yo ufor a 2-credit Stats class instead of the usual 6-credit Stats class. (Either way, you must take Stats in Stern). You can take Stats freshman year or later if you want, although I'm quite sure that it's a prerequisite for something somewhere in the Stern core. Most take it freshman or sophomore year.</p>
<p>Yeah...I'm really not clear on the new policy, although I am quite sure that Stern is requiring that you take a calc-level math regardless of AP scores? Is this correct? You may want to contact Stern advising before you get your hopes up. But at least you get the idea of what the class is like, right?</p>
<p>Since AB did cover integration (oops, sorry), I'll assume that Business Calc is just like AB. It barely touched on integration, and I don't think it was even covered on the first semester class' final exam. Nothing on slope fields or polar coordinates or any of that crap.</p>
<p>Stern requires you to take one 4-credit math course. It doesn't matter which course it is. I'm sure it could even be Precalc.</p>
<p>is "alg and calc" a semester class or a full year class?</p>
<p>alg and calc is a semester class. Aren't most classes a semester class?</p>
<p>so if i took alg and calc 1st semester, wat would i take 2nd semester?</p>
<p>You'll be done with math, so probably a science class. Each semester you will only take 4 courses times 4 credits each equals 16 credits a semester.</p>
<p>so what do AP tests allow you to do? more electives? I mean if there is no real advantage placing out of the core whats to stop you from taking the course over again and boosting your GPA?</p>
<p>APs allow you to take fewer classes and have less stress. </p>
<p>What do you mean by taking courses over again? You certainly can't take the same course for two semesters unless you fail. But there is nothing preventing you from repeating high school courses. Some people choose to boost their GPA by doing so.</p>
<p>Personally, I hope AP credits can allow me to graduate in 7 semesters instead of 8. That would save $20,000.</p>
<p>wyseson, i got a 5 on ap chem so i won't have to take a science since my ap exam fulfills the natural science requirement. so wat would i take then? would i even have to take an elective 2nd semester? lol sorri for all the questions.</p>