Question about courses

<p>If you take Math103, you need to study very hard if you aren't extremely gifted. Like more than just "good at math" like most Duke kids are. I studied pretty hard and struggled a lot, and I'm an engineer. I definitely should have put more time into the class, and it does seem that my friends who studied more got better grades. But like I said, i didn't slack off that bad. Still put in a lot of work, still got a C. it's a very tough class.</p>

<p>Expect to put in 10 hours per week outside of class for a B in Math 103, and that is if you have one of the best professors.</p>

<p>godevils- is that true???</p>

<p>Does that apply to Math 102 as well?????</p>

<p>yes its true...</p>

<p>though some of the ideas (constrained optimization) might not make too much sense at first - though pretty easy to pick up.</p>

<p>oh i see... thank you bsbllallstr8</p>

<p>what's the book for 103? i'm thinking about getting it over the summer and going over it before the class</p>

<p>it's Penney's... dunno what edition it is tho
My calc teacher in highschool recommended that when we covered topics in multivariable calc... but I don't think that book is really good for self-teaching tho... I suggest Larson's (dunno if the spelling is right)...</p>

<p>Last I checked it was still the 6th edition. Don't quote me tho. I really thought the book was more than adequate for the topics covered. If you disagree, I would also suggest the Stewart calc book.</p>

<p>are there any self teaching books that would help in 103? like ap review books except for multivariable calculus?!?</p>

<p>i suggest finding any multivar book that has a COMPREHENSIVE solutions manual. they can be the most valuable tool in many courses. it is not cheating if used correctly. work a problem, check your work. figure out where you went wrong. having correct work in front of you helps so much (if you dont copy!!)</p>

<p>is there anyone here who took math 102?</p>

<p>bsbllallstr8-
about math req for econ 105 and 110... it says</p>

<p>Prerequisite: Economics 55D; Mathematics 102 or Mathematics 103 or any higher-level mathematics course with Mathematics 103 as a prerequisite. Students who matriculated prior to Fall 2007, may substitute successful completion (80%) of EcoTeach Center Math Test for Mathematics 102 or 103.</p>

<p>I'm not sure what EcoTeach Math Test and stuff is... does this mean that I have to take a test in math before I can take econ 105D and 110D concurrently with math 102?</p>

<p>eek, i dont know. most people have math 102/3 out of the way before going into econ 105. you will probably be able to enroll (maybe with the aid of the econ teach test), but you will have to be manually enrolled in the course by the econ DUS. this means you wont register on time, most likely, and might miss your top discussion section or something.</p>

<p>i realize that this greatly impacts your fall schedule, so i recommend emailing the econ DUS to find out for sure.</p>

<p>Dr. Emma Rasiel, Director of Undergraduate Studies, <a href="mailto:ebr4@duke.edu">ebr4@duke.edu</a>
Spring 2008 DUS Office Hours: Tuesdays & Fridays, 1:30pm-3:30pm, Room 329H SocSci</p>

<p>One of my friends took Math 103, Econ 105, and Econ 110 last semester. It's definitely possible to take them together.</p>

<p>hm I just got a reply from Emma Rasiel and she said "The math pre-reqs for Econ 105 are strict, I'm afraid. You will need to complete at least Math 102 before you can take Econ 105."</p>

<p>Now I'm confused...</p>

<p>im kind of confused how she was a VP @ goldman haha she seems to tell people different stuff. it seems the econ department is trying to reduce enrollment. duke really needs to separate the 'econ' people from the 'finance' people.</p>

<p>i dont know what to tell you originpranks, can you describe your schedule situation in more detail?</p>

<p>well i guess it does depend on what i get on my ap...
that being said, if i get above 4 in macro/micro and calc BC,
at this point I'm thinking about</p>

<p>Semester 1
Writing 20
Econ 55
Math 102
???? (possibly poli sci 103)</p>

<p>Semester 2
Seminar (Econ, I think)
Econ 105
Stats of some sort
????</p>

<p>I'm also thinking about pushing math 102 to the second semester and since that won't let me take econ 105 second semester, taking an econ elective (intl economy or sth like that) instead... the fourth slots, i still am not sure about....</p>

<p>What do you think bsbllallstr8?</p>

<p>take math first semester - the prerec issue with econ 105 will then become irrelevant :-) also your schedule isnt too terribly difficult in the fall, so you'd be served well to just get math out of the way.</p>

<p>If I am strongly thinking about being an econ major
is it not wise to NOT do econ first semester
and do like
writing, math 32, spanish 76, psych11</p>

<p>Is it not advised to have 3 mwf classes and 1 seminar on t/th. Do people generally like having the days off
It seems so perfect! on mwf i start at 1020 and end at 230 with 45 minutes between classes, and the seminar would be 1005 to 1120</p>

<p>... but only in a perfect world!... I would need to actually get IN the classes first</p>