question about ELC admission

<p>so, I know ELCs are guaranteed a place at one of the UCs. if I only apply to Cal or maybe Cal and UCLA, then they must accept me in one of the two, right??? they can't tell me I'm accepted to UCM or UCSC if I'm not applying there, right?</p>

<p>wrong (character)</p>

<p>Both Berkeley and LA use it in their admission process, but it counts for 60%. This means that the other 40% is based on test scores, extracurriculars, and your personal statement. </p>

<p>ELC **ONLY* guarantees admission to the following UCs:
1. Davis
2. Santa Barbara
3. Irvine
4. Riverside
5. Merced</p>

<p>60%, that's a lot.
I thought they don't use a systematic way to calculate admission.</p>

<p>Thanks babyblue</p>

<p>ELC is not 60% of admissions criterion for Berkeley and LA. I don't know where you get that BS BabyBlue, but it isn't true.</p>

<p>But is the rest, about automatic admissions into UCD, UCI, etc true? I'd really like to know so I dont' end up applying to ALL the UCs (just in case!)</p>

<p>Last year the automatic admissions schools were UCR and UCM. Not even UCD, UCI and etc have automatic ELC admissions, though it boosts your application status. UCSD, I know for sure gives extra points for ELC.</p>

<p>UCSD has a TAG program which is an automatic once you reach a certain GPA - I am of course talking about community college.</p>

<p>UCSB also admitted all ELC students this year. It seems to change from year to year. I do think that ELC helped my son get into CAL.</p>

<p>Other UCs besides UCR and UCM will admit ELC students if they have room. It really depends on the amount of people that they accept. If the campuses need to admit more then they will fill it out with ELC people.</p>

<p>It really has to do with expected yield of accepted students, something the UCs aren't always good at predicting (UC Davis for Overyield and Merced for Underyield).</p>

<p>Okay, extension of this. My mom forgot to turn in my ELC grade release form, although my grades were probably high enough, so I won't be ELC. Will this hurt my chances at Cal/UCLA?</p>

<p>Those two really don't count ELC unless you are a real borderline candidate. Many of the Cal and UCLA admits were definitely not ELC, especially since many of them such as myself came from top UC feeder high schools.</p>

<p>Ugh. This always comes up. Hearsay, hearsay, hearsay. Go to the source when in doubt, please. Do not present your information if you don't know what the policies actually are. There is no rotating system of ELC guarantees, whereby one year one school accepts all ELC applicants and the next year another school does it. The list that was provided in post 3 is NOT accurate. Here's the official school responses to the UC questionnaire for Fall 2006 applicants:</p>

<p>Question: For Fall 2006, will ELC students be guaranteed admission to your campus?</p>

<p>Berkeley: No. However, ELC status is taken into account in the comprehensive review process.
Davis: No. However, ELC status is taken into account in the comprehensive review process.
Irvine: Yes, all confirmed ELC applicants who apply on time and complete requirements are admitted to all majors except Dance and Music, and majors in the schools of Engineering and Information and Computer Science. In excluded majors, ELC status will continue to be given consideration in the comprehensive review process.
Los Angeles: No. However, ELC status is taken into account in the comprehensive review process.
Merced: Yes, provided applicants satisfactorily complete senior-year requirements.
Riverside: Yes, provided applicants satisfactorily complete senior-year requirements.
San Diego: No. However, ELC status is taken into account in the comprehensive review process.
Santa Barbara: Yes, provided applicants satisfactorily complete senior-year requirements.
Santa Cruz: No. However, ELC status is taken into account in the comprehensive review process.</p>

<p>A school like Santa Cruz does not have an official policy of accepting all ELC applicants, but that's not to say all ELC applicants won't be accepted (let's be honest, SC doesn't have the most stringent of admissions policies). As far as I know, and I have been following this for several years now, none of the schools' policies have changed and as far as I'm concerned, none of them will change in the near future (with the exception of Merced, perhaps, for obvious reasons).</p>

<p>My high school was very small. One of the ELC eligible seniors in my class was out of the country with parents for the summer and parents did not return the consent forms either. The Dean at my HS filed some type of appeal to the UC's or ELC to make her ELC eligible. I really don't know all of the details katalinacmnacha8 but you may want to check with the UC and ELC website for more info or talk to someone at your high school. It's not going to make it or break it for you on getting into Cal or UCLA in my opinion, its just another bonus point for you.</p>

<p>GOldenbear: I don't think "borderline" has anything to do with ELC. ELC are the top of the applicants and the top 4% of their graduating class.</p>

<p>ok, I found this,
<a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/resources/materials/CC_2006/Fresh_Matrix_06.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/resources/materials/CC_2006/Fresh_Matrix_06.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>according to this, UCD is Yes
please go check it out yourself</p>

<p>something more interesting:
<a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/compreview/mooresreport.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/compreview/mooresreport.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"• 3,2531 applicants with SAT I
scores over 1400 were denied
admission (Table 3), while
• 3862 applicants (3.5%) with SAT
I scores of 1000 or less were
granted admission"</p>

<p>I am scared that I might be one of the 3000 that get rejected, my sat is 2100+</p>

<p>Top 4% of a graduating class doesn't mean squat. Not every graduating class is equal. I know tons of schools where ELC kids with 4.0 UW GPAs score under 1500 on the NEW SAT. These kids aren't getitng in to Berkeley or LA.</p>

<p>Most ELC candidates do not actually get into the top 2 UCs simply because they don't have the test scores to back up the GPA, which screams grade inflation. The UCs also know which schools have or don't have grade inflation and this is more important because the lack of a competitive environment along with poor test scores is a deathknell for applicants to the top tiered schools especially with more qualified candidates that aren't ELC or are from out of state.</p>

<p>So yes there are borderline ELC candidates simply because some non-ELC students are more qualified and in those cases ELC will help those borderline candidate. So no, ELC is not the top of the whole applicant class.</p>

<p>Golden bear, I would be really curious to know where you got the information for your last post... I understand what you mean about the difference in the quality of education throughout the state, if you can provide the source though of your info because most of your post makes no sense at all, especially the last paragraph.</p>

<p>Golden bear, I would be really curious to know where you got the information for your last post... I understand what you mean about the difference in the quality of education throughout the state, if you can provide the source though of your info because most of your post makes no sense at all, especially the last paragraph.</p>