Question about the 5 year Masters in CS, double degrees, blah blah blah

<p>Ok I am in MCS for physics and I was wandering about a couple of points</p>

<p>If I complete a double major in physics and CS would that degree make me eligible for the 5 year track? Im guessing not?</p>

<p>Ok then if I get double B.S. degrees would that qualify me?</p>

<p>Also double B.S. degrees are offered by seperate schools right, so would I have to be a member of each school, how does that work out.</p>

<p>Also, since I want to at least double major do I have to sign up for a department class in C.S. I know i have to take one for physics. How does that work out.</p>

<p>What courses for C.S. should I take this fall to be on track for a double major.</p>

<p>I'm taking intro to programing but thats about it.</p>

<p>Also the regestration sheet, that was just for fall classes right?</p>

<p>Thanks a bunch in advance</p>

<p>You seem to be in the same boat as me SISIS, I'm a Physics, Math, and CS triple major(with Physics as the primary major). I want a dual degree one from MCS with a Physics and Math double major and a CS degree from SCS. lol mabye even a 3rd if i can complete the honors mathsequence which seems unlikely at the moment. </p>

<p>I'm a bit confused about the double degree situation too. All I know is to be on track for the double major we have to atleast take 15-111 and 21-127, which is looking really hard for me. </p>

<p>This is what I'm lloking at for next term's schedule </p>

<p><a href="http://tcpulse.com/psched/graph.php?c%5B%5D=09107A&c%5B%5D=15111B&c%5B%5D=21127H&c%5B%5D=21131A&c%5B%5D=33211A&c%5B%5D=76101F&c%5B%5D=99101F1&c%5B%5D=&sem=F06%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://tcpulse.com/psched/graph.php?c%5B%5D=09107A&c%5B%5D=15111B&c%5B%5D=21127H&c%5B%5D=21131A&c%5B%5D=33211A&c%5B%5D=76101F&c%5B%5D=99101F1&c%5B%5D=&sem=F06&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I'm gonna have to cut something out, but mabye I can convince them to let me take 61 credits.</p>

<p>couple questions</p>

<p>How are you taking 21-127 Concepts of Mathematics</p>

<p>I didn't see that as a course I could take when I registered, it looks interesting and I'd like to take it lol...esecially since its a prerequisite to some stuff</p>

<p>arnt 61 units a little too much?</p>

<p>yes, it's a lot but its the only option I have if I wanna take a CS course spring semester. I still don't know if they're gonna let me take 61 units tho. Hopefully they will but if they don't I might have to drop either 09-107 or 21-127.</p>

<p>SISIS, if you don't take 21-217 you won't be able to take a CS course spring term, which may set you back on your requirements for the major. Call up ur advisor and talk to your department heads. I still have to lol.</p>

<p>samcold0, maybe plan to take a few courses in one of the 2 summer sessions following freshman year. One option is to just take Interp and Arg along with a bunch of other humanities classes during the summer, and that will free up 9 units in your first semester, and at least 9 other units for your second semester (and possibly subsequent semesters depending on how many courses you take in the summer). The only problem is the way MCS sets up registration for courses is, although less work for the student, really inflexible since they're pretty much setting up your schedule for you.
But regardless of what you do I think that it's an absolute rule you can't take more than around 55~57 units your first semester. And, in order to concievably do a triple major between cs, math, and physics (within 4yrs), you will definitely need to take summer courses.</p>

<p>yea i saw on one of CMU's student info site(I don't have a link right now) that the max amount of units I can take is 54. I'm trying to get around that. I talked to my advisor and she said it could be done in four years because I'm gonna take the Honors sequence in Math( analysis and Math Studies). If I somehow get lucky and test out of analysis I and II that could help too. But even if I don't, I THINK I should be able to do it in 4 years without summer courses.</p>

<p>the range of units allowed is 36-57. and the advised no of units is 49.</p>

<p>where'd you get those #s sachit? </p>

<p>I got the 54 unit max from the hub's student info website, which doesn't seem to link right, </p>

<p><a href="http://cmu.edu/home/current_students/index.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://cmu.edu/home/current_students/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>its under the student services section as "student information online." When I clicked in there I was able to get to a page that said that the max # of units for me was 54. </p>

<p>This whole process is so confusing!!! I don't even know why I have to take 21-127, I already know a decent amount of discreate math. Without it I have a 52 units which is a normal course load.</p>

<p>those numbers are from the SCS advising site. maybe the no of units allowed is diff for diff departments.</p>

<p>for SCS students, maybe for other depts too -- i dont know, there is discrete mathematics placement exam. maybe you could talk to your advisor abt taking that.</p>

<p>hmm... i don't think i have to take it since I am going to take introduction to programming and then advanced programing, I don't have to take 21-127 just yet right? I could take it in spring. As for you, I think you have to lol, but you wouldn't neccesarily be behind if you didn't</p>

<p>The max number of units you can take freshman semester is determined by your department; I know it is higher for computer science than it is for some other departments (I think CIT is notably lower). 61 units will not be allowed in any department first semester of freshman year.</p>

<p>My suggestion is to slow down and not worry about doing a triple major- there's more to life than completing majors. It's better to take more in-depth courses in one or two areas than to complete the minimum requirements for three majors.</p>

<p>If you're taking 15-100, the intro programming course, it means you have no previous programming experience, and you'd have to take 15-200 the following semester. 21-127 is a prerequisite for 15-211. However, if you have some programming experience and you take 15-111, then you will need the 21-127 credit for the following semester so you can enroll in 15-211.</p>

<p>Talk to MCS about credit for 21-127; if they won't give it to you, you could try negotiating with the CS department. You might be able to come up with some agreement like you take the discrete math placement test, and if you score high enough to get credit as a CS major, they let you into 15-211 as though you have credit for 21-127, even if they can't grant it to you if you're not a CS major. You'd probably want to talk to Mark Stelhik, the dean of CS, about that.</p>

<p>What I don't get is why 21-131 doesn't cover the prereq for 15-211. Analysis is proof oriented and has a decent amount discreate math in it. I just hope I can test out of it.</p>

<p>i heard 15-211 doesnt even have much discrete math in it, while 15-251 does and goes over materials from 21-127....</p>

<p>15-211 doesn't have that much discrete math in it, but you need to be familiar with proofs (induction/loop invariant stuff), trees, and graphs. 15-251 does go over stuff from 21-127, but going into 15-251 with no discrete math background would be absolutely crazy.</p>

<p>Since I'm taking intro to programming I can just take 21-127 along with Advanced programing in the spring semester right, I don't have to take it now?</p>

<p>Yep, if by intro to programming you mean 15-100 and by advanced programming you mean 15-200.</p>

<p>But you may not want to miss Mackey in the fall!</p>

<p>SISIS: I understand you're excited about coming to Carnegie, and you want to make the most of your time here. But I want to stress how much CMU has to offer outside of academics. Don't worry about your major yet - take classes that look interesting (and not too many your first semester). Spend your first semester making some really good friends and getting to know professors.</p>

<p>Also, if you're taking 15-100 that means you dont have programming experience - if that's so, how could you possibly know that a major in CS is the track for you. My suggestion is to test the water and decide later.</p>

<p>You're right I don't have any programming experience, but it sounds like something I would want to do. But really, not many people have much experience in what they are going into. I have to take programming anyways for physics so if I don't like it I won't continue. There is nothing wrong with planning out my future IF I plan to stay in computer science. My main degree is physics for now. I also plan to make friends and be social but I want to be succesful. But thanks for the advice, I'll try not to become a recluse;).</p>

<p>One question I still have is if I complete a double major in physics and CS would that degree (double degree) make me eligible for the 5 year track? Im guessing not?</p>

<p>Or would i have to get a double B.S. degrees.</p>