<p>I heard a lot of people saying that it's harder for Chinese people to get in Universities like Stanford, Harvard or other good schools....
I just don't think it's fair for us.... Can anyone tell me why....
thx a lot</p>
<p>Grade A stereotyping there. Who did you hear this **** from anyways?</p>
<p>Ethnicity doesn't affect your chances for public schools, but *can[i/]do for private.</p>
<p>Your grades, your activities, and your application will determine if you get in. If you're qualified, you'll get in. Simple as that. Also, not Chinese; ASIAN is the right word. Are you trying to get into Harvard, Stanford? How about Berkeley? If you ask this because you feel inadequate and do not think you will shine over the other Asian applicants (or anyone else for that matter), get to work: don't waste your time on forums.</p>
<p>So to summarize, it's fair...</p>
<p>21% of undergrads here are Chinese, at least ethnically. Seems "fair" to me.</p>
<p>Undergraduate</a> Program - Degree Information - Haas School of Business</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>"If you're qualified, you'll get in. Simple as that. "</p>
<p>wrong. tons of qualified of people from all ethnicities get turned down at top institutions, and the being asian certainly won't help one's case for getting in.</p>
<p>rofflez: because they are not "qualified" by the school's standards.</p>
<p>^the OP is asking about privates, not about us</p>
<p>shadow2, I'm not quite sure what you're saying. Are you implying that ethnicity has no bearing whatsoever on admissions? Or are you just saying that it's "fair" to have different standards of qualifications for different ethnicities?</p>
<p>back on topic, I have a question for people who actually know about the process... are UC's that use holistic admissions not allowed to factor in ethnicity whatsoever?</p>
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are UC's that use holistic admissions not allowed to factor in ethnicity whatsoever?
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De jure, yes; de facto, probably no. This issue was recently highlighted by this:
<a href="http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/CUARS.Resignation.Report.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/polisci/faculty/groseclose/CUARS.Resignation.Report.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ethnicity is actually a major factor in admissions. </p>
<p>The admissions rate for Asians is probably much lower than than for Blacks and Latinos at top schools.</p>
<p>The applicant pool among Asians is very competitive, and colleges try to limit the percentage that Asians represent at colleges.</p>
<p>It is especially more competitive among Asian males, and a bit less for Asian females.</p>
<p>Don't know how I know this, just that I read it somewhere or watched something.</p>
<p>Just to make a notice, virtually all universities define Asian as = (East Asians + South Asians + Southeast Asians (including Filipinos))</p>
<p>they DO NOT use the racist, bigoted definition that defines Asian as = (East Asians + Vietnamese + any other group that predominantly has epicanthic eye folds – Filipinos)</p>
<p>From a statistical point of view, it is not hard at all !!!</p>
<p>But from a personal point of view, it is very hard. Cuz they generally do well. Therefore, you have to be the best of best in order to get in.</p>
<p>a few years ago, a group of chinese students cheated on the standardized tests and leaked the questions online. When the ETS found out, they freaked out and sent warning letters to all universities.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there has been visible "weariness" towards Chinese students in general ever since... and it will take a while for this feeling to go away. Call it a bad stereotype, but I think you are in a pretty tough situation when the American Universities view the Chinese people as dishonest cheaters. Philosophically at least, you are supposed to attend universities with an intent to improve yourself while remaining ethical. You are supposed to value hard work and learning above getting good grades for good grades sake or achieving for achievement sake.</p>
<p>Too lazy to go find it now, but a few professors (?) at Princeton did a study regarding race and effective SAT score, and found that being Asian was a significant disadvantage (if an Asian applicant and Black applicant had the exact same SAT score, I think the SAT score of the Black applicant was given a "bonus" of like 200 points compared to the Asian applicant...)</p>
<p>Being Asian will not hurt or help your chances.</p>