Question about the issue of QAS distribution

<p>Hi everyone in CC,</p>

<p>I have a question I have been pondering about regarding the illegal elements and ethics involved in one obtaining the SAT QAS.</p>

<p>First of all I would like to mention that we all know it is illegal to own a copy of QAS if you didn't personally buy it.</p>

<p>However, imagine this scenario - A friend of yours takes the SAT, orders the QAS, you go to his place and he shows it to you. Could be that considered illegal?</p>

<p>While I do not have any friends who ordered the QAS, and its not like 1 QAS will increase your scores dramatically, I often wonder how will you guys interpret this kind of situation.</p>

<p>Would love to hear from fellow CC members.</p>

<p>College Board will contact the police immediately and the matter will become a federal concern, ultimately for the safety of the people. Never share your QAS(s) in any way. You are only harming the entire populace of the US by doing so… I hope you will reconsider the implications next time you try and share QAS(s) with your friends. I think the best comparison would be saying that reading a QAS together with your friends is analogous to taking a hit of cocaine with a few friends.</p>

<p>Yes the feds will storm in your house and confiscate it. they have GPS on all the QAS, and u need to get ur fingerprint scanned to get it, so when the QAS sees that its the wrong fingerprint, it sends a signal to a global sattilite and calls 911.</p>

<p>no jk. not like it matters. collegeboard uses UNRELEASED test questions again, not QAS. Do them for practice.</p>

<p>November 2005’s illegally released exam, which was same as November 2010 SAT in the US, has been circulating in the internet. College Board representatives will storm in the Internet for investigation of that test.</p>

<p>^ I doubt that. Sure, it was released, but only a couple people knew about it. Collegeboard won’t cancel our scores. At the very best, you can choose to take it again, but not like it matters. The curve is predetermined.</p>

<p>“A couple…?”
Not sure about that, my friend.</p>

<p>CollegeBoard is getting lazy…
Last May I received the SAT II U.S. History exam that was tested a year or two prior in October.</p>

<p>Stop recycling tests…</p>

<p>It is not illegal for you to see the QAS booklet or even for your friend to give it to you as a gift. I don’t think it is unusual for the CB to reuse entire subject tests (and for any subject test administration, at least some of the questions must be repeated). It is pretty unusual, though, for entire SATs to be re-used. Has that been confirmed?</p>

<p>^^^^The advantage of looking at the test can be very enormous. If you took that test for practice and if you take it again, doing so is tantamount to your doubling your time limit for the real exam. Therefore the College Board MUST nullify the test scores for November 2010 US exam.</p>

<p>^Call or send an email to collegeboard.</p>

<p>Lol. Lets examine this. I had about 30 tests (Kaplan, Barrons, Official SAT Tests, Elite tests) that I could do. If you took the test for practice, you must have had access to 50 others. </p>

<p>During the end of my spree, I found myself turning back to some of the tests that I had done and did them again. None of us have perfect memory. The test will seem familiar, and you might think that you had did it before, but YOU WILL NOT. REMEMBER. the answers.</p>

<p>Therefore, the gain from doing this test again would be minimal at best. </p>

<p>Also lets look at this from a economical standpoint. Collegeboard has to PAY the proctors to take the SAT. That amounts to a MASSIVE amount of money for every sitting. If they cancel the score of the MILLIONS of people that took the SAT, they would only lose millions of dollars.</p>

<p>Besides, I doubt that you are doing this because of your morals. The curve is predetermined, so the amount of high scores will NOT, I repeat, NOT affect the existing curve. More likely is that you have done bad on this test, and want a retake. Well, if that is your reason, you have to consider others that did good on this test WITHOUT cheating. How would that make those people feel? Even worse than you.</p>

<p>“Lol. Lets examine this. I had about 30 tests that I could do. If you took the test for practice, you must have had access to 50 others.”</p>

<p>From where did you arrive at the conclusion that, I had access to 50 tests?</p>

<p>When I said you, I meant the people that had access to the November 2005 test.</p>

<p>…people [who] had access to the November 2005…
“You” is still in second person.
Also you underestimate the propagating power of the internet. Information can only spread so slowly in the WWW.</p>

<p>“If they cancel the score of the MILLIONS of people that took the SAT, they would only lose millions of dollars.”</p>

<p>Oh yes. One test administered in Korea was actually canceled b/c the questions were released already by unscrupulous tutors in academies.</p>

<p>“Well, if that is your reason, you have to consider others that did good on this test WITHOUT cheating.”</p>

<p>As shown in my example given, the College Board does NOT care, I submit, about the majority scored high without cheating. The people who had seen the test already were probably minority of the test-takers; nevertheless the CB canceled test scores. Hmm.</p>

<p>That was 900 people. We are talking about 1000 times that. If you still want to argue about it, then have fun, because I’m already tired of this discussion and need to finish up my homework.</p>

<p>One last point.</p>

<p>"Indeed, on a Web site frequently visited by those wishing to study abroad in America, the document containing answers to the SAT in January that was sent to students in America was posted. </p>

<p>The document was compiled by a hakwon teacher and he encouraged his students to carefully memorize the answers before taking the test. In other words, students in America who had access to the document before taking the test could have gotten perfect scores. But sadly, only the test scores of those who took the SAT in Korea were canceled. "</p>

<p>Even though the answers were online, only Korea was canceled. Not America.</p>

<p>Everyone made some really good points here.</p>

<p>I really need to reiterate that I DO NOT have any friends who own QAS. Read my original post carefully. I was merely wondering about such a scenario.</p>

<p>Having said that, if I really had excess to any illegal copy of QAS, I don’t think I will even look at it. </p>

<p>For me, I would want to do well on the SAT using resources that are made available to public. Not by access of some limited secret material. </p>

<p>Imagine if you get a 2400 because you had access to like 10 QAS that few of the public had access to. Would you feel proud of your accomplishment?</p>

<p>I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that having QAS will get you a 2400 or somewhere close to that.</p>

<p>QAS tests are the almost the same as those you see in BB, the online course, etc. They are a good supplement to those who needs more CB exams when they exhaust the BB and online course because exams made by other companies are crap.
So one still has to study hard and use those exams to practice in order to score well. It’s not cheating. It’s perfectly acceptable. However, how one obtains them could lead to legality issues but let’s not digress :)</p>

<p>CB reusing an entire exam or a huge portion of it is definitely news to me, but this is different from QAS. QAS exams are those CB knowingly distribrute to the public(<em>cough cough</em> I mean sell to the test-takers), the nov one was probably stolen by some test taker cuz CB doesnt release that exam from 2005.</p>

<p>CB has been reusing entire exams since the new SAT I was first administered in 2005 (and probably before that for the old SAT 1). It’s becoming more widely known now on CC because of the incident surrounding the November 2010 SAT but it was always going on.</p>