Question about Tufts granting SMFA degrees

<p>You're right. I've read that there has been a big increase in applications to art school. Some artists get paid well, but most don't. Most artists change careers if they haven't made it by the time they are 30.</p>

<p>Hopefully you won't have to go to Iraq, although I think there are going to be problems there for a long time. I think you could go to law school and into the ministry. Many people have multiple careers over the course of a lifetime.
I was going to teach college level English, but there weren't any jobs when I graduated, so I went on to get my MBA. Now I'm a musician. You shouldn't put yourself into any kind of box. Many people are multi-talented and need to express themselves in various ways.</p>

<p>"Hopefully you won't have to go to Iraq"</p>

<p>Dude, I'm going to ASK them to send me there. Honestly, I would be absolutely crushed if I wasn't able to go for some reason...I don't know what would become of me if that were to happen.</p>

<p>If you go, we'll just have to hope that you stay safe.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Yeah, I have to go there though. Somehow I just don't think this life of leisure is for me. Maybe I need to see the collapse of humanity that's happening right now in Baghdad. Maybe I need to have that on my shoulders because in certain ways suffering can be a good thing, indeed it can be the greatest and most liberating of things. Morbid? I don't think so. All the same I'm glad there's folks who care if I do end up going over there.</p>

<p>Dear Rbay,</p>

<p>"Sigh", we know that someday you will grow out of this.</p>

<p>Aren't you busy earning your degree at Tufts? Don't you have a social life? Don't make us feel sorry for you, or you might get too many "Mommy" posts.</p>

<p>Best wishes,
Indiemchn</p>

<p>So what was the point of that post? To start a fight on CollegeConfidential? Because that's, just, that's really cool!</p>

<p>Actually, I think this site should not be used to trash colleges or their student populations. It should be used constructively to help us get the info we need about colleges. </p>

<p>Sincerely,
IM</p>

<p>What a concept! lol</p>

<p>""Sigh", we know that someday you will grow out of this."</p>

<p>Grow out of what?</p>

<p>1) Yes to social life
2) No to still being at Tufts</p>

<p>I could use a few mommy posts though.</p>

<p>“I'm wondering if it's possible to be both a lawyer but still go into the ministry”</p>

<p>That’s an interesting moral marriage of career choices. One profession requires you to uphold the laws of God—the other, man. Reconciling the two should prove amusing at times.</p>

<p>A book I believe you will find of interest and fascinating is When Jesus Came to Harvard: Making Moral Choices Today, by Harvey Cox, Harvard Divinity School.</p>

<p>Dr. Cox created and taught and an undergraduate course pertinently named Jesus and the Moral Life, which became one of the most successful and sought-after courses at Harvard through the 80’s and 90’s. It was also the 1st course that had the name Jesus in it for over 70 years. The book is based on his course.</p>

<p>So what are you up to rightbackatyou? Did you graduate from Tufts or did you just leave? I hope things are going well for you.</p>

<p>I think everyone can use a mommy post, if by that you mean someone showing a little sympathy.</p>

<p>Nah I just left Tufts...I'm drifting (somewhere in outer space) now. Hahaha, I don't know what I'm doing with my life, lol. I do know that I had a 45 minute conversation with this girl dressed in one of the skimpiest outfits I've seen in a long time...that took my mind off of everything for awhile. Bliss.</p>

<p>That must have been pleasant. ;-)</p>

<p>SMFA is a very prestigious ART College
the level of artistic skill it takes , as well as SAT scores & overall HS grades to get accepted is not easy. Not to mention creating a portfolio. Tufts obviously wanted something from SMFA that was missing in its “academically” oriented programs. The MFA is the new MBA, creative people that are not afraid to think outside the box. Why do people think that artists are not smart? Warhol, Michaelangelo, Picasso, Kahlo, were these not visionaries with intelligence?</p>

<p>As one who was accepted to both Tufts and SMFA, I can safely say that I am appalled by your elitist narrow-mindedness. </p>

<p>Not only have you singlehandedly belittled the careers and livelihood of people who are as you said, “fine drawers” (I believe the sentence SHOULD read “though you might draw well”) but you have also managed to miss the point entirely. SMFA is a fine school, and your more than palpable tone of condescension towards art schools in general is underappreciated, unfair, and unjustifiable. From what I can tell, yes this fellow you met is probably of that demographic that didn’t have the grades, and that’s unfortunate. But what you fail to understand is that a vast majority of the students at SMFA though “fun,” aren’t the deadbeats that you presume them to be. They are disciplined, hardworking and intelligent. Just because one doesn’t know how to have a good time while learning, does not make them any less of a competitor or a poor student. John Lasseter the creator of Toy Story and many other fine movies from a little studio called Pixar - (I’m sure you’re familiar with their work) is quite a fun guy - does that make him any less of a hard worker? NO, quite the contrary in fact, and he went to an art school. SMFA students enrolled in the BFA have standards that they have to live up to in order to maintain their enrollment status so don’t write them off as slackers. They are held to different responsibilities than you are so whatever curriculum you’re referring to is beside the point.</p>

<p>I think you should get over yourself. From what I can tell your boyfriend is more focused on his academic career and less about whether or not someone with completely separate responsibilities and qualifications is “deserving” of extra ink on a diploma. Any college can bring you miles into a successful career – it’s all about what you do with your education and how you stand out. Why would you cripple people who are more than deserving of the Tufts name by not giving them the opportunity to do so? I think one of the chief principles behind the school system today is creating opportunity and giving students the ability to excel in the world. And if you want to crunch numbers the tuition of SMFA as of right now is $47,000 dollars so cost really isn’t a factor. You and your peers are only asked to be represented on paper, which can in most cases be rather easy– we (the artists) on the other hand not only have to stand out on paper but also have to develop a portfolio that needs to meet a certain standard. While you’re writing a description of yourself for college apps and jobs we have to show OURSELVES – and that’s a lot more at stake. You can change your grades. You can’t change your passion.</p>

<p>I welcomed the opportunity to go to SMFA and Tufts because I relished in the idea of not being pigeon-holed by appearances. I was looking for a forward thinking multi-dimensional education with people of individuality and not an antiquated, one note school of old fashioned prestige (which is only encouraged by people with opinions like you). Tufts is trying to push this sentiment of collaboration by GIVING you students who don’t fit this cookie cutter that you hold in such high esteem. What it comes down to is that you have a myopic view of the world, whereas I was hoping for the kaleidoscope. You are asking for a limited exposure to the world and not welcoming its many colors and variety. Truth is, you are the EXACT stereotype that I was hoping to avoid (pretty much for my entire life) and that many of my peers dread. I am saddened that you see the world in such a way. You lack maturity and your bigotry is astounding.</p>

<p>I look forward to being on your campus in the Fall.</p>

<p>If it makes you feel any better, given that the post you’re responding to was from four years ago, I think we can safely assume that you will not need to share the campus with the poster.</p>

<p>I think the OP would have a bigger fit if she knew that the SFMA now also has a partnership with Northeastern University. “(WHINE) But they actually make their students work before they get their degree!”</p>

<p><a href=“http://smfa.dev.contentexecutive.com/partnerships_northeastern[/url]”>http://smfa.dev.contentexecutive.com/partnerships_northeastern&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Hi, I’m a freshman, and I was so excited to go to Tufts with the SMFA dual degree. Within a month my dream became a disaster.
There is something the admissions won’t tell you. How many students DROP the program!! Even my dean admitted that it is a way of advertising the school to attract more people , something that looks good on a brochure but in actuality is not a great program at all.</p>

<p>SMFA SUCKS!! It’s far, instructors are horrible(depends actually , there are good instructors but many are not), the students at SMFA are horrible. Most of them are pot smokers, and they take really easy courses at Tufts (i.e intro art history, english) and say it’s hard. For instance, most SMFA students will take 3 academic course at tufts and do nothing else- they don’t even do art during those times and say they are struggling. Also, it takes 2 hours round trip to SMFA from Tufts. MOST dual degree admitted students end up dropping the art degree because of the incompatibility of the scheduling, geographical reason, and the level of art instruction </p>

<p>P.S seen many seniors who dropped out of the program during their sophomore/junior year and hated the school. They(and me) felt like we’ve been deceived</p>

<p>^^Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnddd the ■■■■■ has returned.</p>