Question concerning URM

<p>Hello-</p>

<p>I'm curious concerning how much my ethnicity will strengthen my chances. I am an ACTIVE Native American, with a 4.01 GPA, 750M 650V, 10 AP classes total, very strong ec's, and a well written essay. I'm extremely interested in Brown (ED choice)--any comments? Is it worth applying to, or am I expecting too much? Also, how active is the N.A. community on college campuses in the New England area? I'm from the South and have never been up North until recently for college visits. Thanks!</p>

<p>Yes, it will stengthen your chances. N.A.s are VERY under-represented. The N.A. community will probably be different on different campuses. You can ask the admissions office to put you in touch with a N.A. student and by email you can probably find out a lot about a particular campus. Brown claims to be 1% N.A. on a campus of around 5,800, so that would be at least 58 students.</p>

<p>Recommend reading a book called "The Gatekeepers". Descibes in detail how Wesleyan U heavily recruited an underachieving native american solely due to his ethnicity.
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0142003085/qid=1129908523/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0378342-4603026?v=glance&s=books&n=507846%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0142003085/qid=1129908523/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0378342-4603026?v=glance&s=books&n=507846&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Bottom line: You have an excellent chance of getting into wherever you wish to go.</p>

<p>I second that.</p>

<p>A. Dillion, I'd wager that you'd be very competitive for Brown, ED or otherwise. I'm not sure how relevant The Gatekeeper is for you, however, as your academic profile appears light years better than the Native American student profiled in that book. Good luck!</p>

<p>You have far stronger chances than most people to get into virtually any college in the country. I don't suggest that you apply ED anywhere because you do NOT need the tip, and probably could benefit by being able to compare financial aid as well as admissions offers from a variety of colleges.</p>

<p>Brown is a wonderful school. I almost went there myself, so what I'm writing is not because I'm against Brown. </p>

<p>Your are such a hot prospect that I would bet $ that the colleges that accept you would be willing to fly you in for overnight visits in the spring after you get admitted. That would allow you to thoughtfully weigh offers.</p>

<p>If $ is a consideration, you probably would have excellent chances of getting full rides from colleges that offer such scholarships. Emory (even though your scores are a little low for what Emory Scholars normally have, you still would have a shot), Wake Forest, Washington University, University of North Carolina, Carnegie Mellon, Vanderbilt, Grinnell are just a few excellent colleges that come to mind.</p>

<p>The Ivies don't give merit aid, but do guarantee to meet 100% of your demonstrated financial need. However, colleges offering merit aid can beat those offers and may throw in other perks such as guaranteed international internships or research programs with top faculty as mentors.</p>

<p>Did you know that Harvard and Dartmouth were founded to serve Native Americans and continue to place a high priority on recruiting them (as do virtually all other top colleges)?</p>

<p>Harvard's info on their Native American program: <a href="http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/hunap/about.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/hunap/about.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"While HUNAP has existed in various forms since its inception in 1970 as a program to train Native American leaders in the field of education, only recently has it been designated as one of Harvard's twelve Interfaculty Initiatives. Consistent with the Harvard University charter of 1650 calling for the "education of English and Indian youth," HUNAP has developed partnerships with established faculties at Harvard to build viable programs of research, teaching, and outreach on issues affecting the lives of indigenous peoples. While these scholarly activities are central to the mission of the program and of a great university, HUNAP maintains a strong emphasis on student support and development. </p>

<p>We invite you to browse the features of our program and share our excitement as Harvard University reinvigorates its commitment to American Indian issues, students, leaders, and nations.</p>

<p>Carmen Lopez
Executive Director</p>

<p>Fulfilling Our Mission</p>

<p>Harvard University's founding Charter of 1650 pledges Harvard to "the education of English and Indian youth." With the designation of its vibrant Native American Program as one of the University's twelve Interfaculty Initiatives, Harvard now rededicates itself to its founding pledge. The Harvard University Native American Program brings together resources, faculty, and students from across the University in a shared commitment to research, teaching, and outreach, advancing the well-being of indigenous peoples through self-determination, academic achievement, and community service."</p>

<p>Info on Dartmouth's program: <a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Enap/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nap/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"The Native American Program (NAP), a program of the Dean of the College area, provides student support services to Native students at Dartmouth.
Its director, Michael Hanitchak works full time to help ensure that the best education available is gained by native students. Michael is himself a Dartmouth alum and was a student when the NAP was in its first years. Michael works with students, administrators, campus-wide faculty and other programs to insure the success of Native American students throughout their time here.</p>

<p>Native American Program
201 Collis Center
Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH 03755
(603) 646-2110
<a href="mailto:Native.American.Program@dartmouth.edu">Native.American.Program@dartmouth.edu</a>
The Native American Program strives to provide spiritual, emotional, and personal support, often times on an individual basis, to insure the success of all Native students. In addition, the program works to increase understanding of native issues both on campus and beyond. Student graduation rates have grown significantly since the inception of the Native American Program in 1970. During the first decade of the Program's existence, the Native student graduation rate averaged 50%; since that time, the rate has risen to an average of 72%, nearly ten times the average graduation rate for Native Americans attending college nationwide. Currently, 157 Native American students are enrolled from more than 50 tribes."</p>

<p>You're in!...it's a given.</p>

<p>Wow, thank you all for your comments--very reassuring! I will definitely reconsider my odds for places I originally crossed off the list. Thanks!</p>

<p>what about if the applicant was Mexican-American?</p>

<p>and A.Dillon, good luck to wherever you wish to go!!</p>

<p>Mexican Americans are very underrepresented URMs, too, so if the student's stats were similar to the OP's, s/he would have similar chances.</p>

<p>ouchh really? I know a Mexican American both of whose parents are profesors and has grown up in a very wealthy environment, and has stats better than the OP (less APs though). He's not that smart though, but I really don't like AA since it's giving him a better chance than me to places like MIT.</p>