<p>hi, i am currently a junior in HS right now...</p>
<p>just sent in some basic sports questionnaires to USAFA, and USNA, just wondering when i will hear from the coaches. is there some NCAA rule that coaches have to follow?? thanks!</p>
<p>Quick, short but true answer from someone who is not recruited:</p>
<p>The service academies are subject to the same NCAA rules as every other school.</p>
<p>Per NCAA rules coaches can send letters, e-mails etc. but can't call or meet in person until end of junior year. My daughter met Navy swim coaches at Summer Seminar when they have a set-aside time for interested athletes. She went on a 3-day recruiting trip early November. She received her appointment late November. The head coach or assistant coach calls about every two weeks just to check in and see how she's doing. She is exploring all her options before she commits but the Navy coaches have been the most professional and caring and she truly feels she would fit in.</p>
<p>"Quick, short but true answer from someone who is not recruited:</p>
<p>The service academies are subject to the same NCAA rules as every other school."</p>
<p>Actually I don't think this is quite true. The service academies do have some exceptions to the rules. I believe once you are a Junior they can start talking to you. They get the exceptions because of the extensive application process.</p>
<p>I have a question about the USNA sport recruiting process..my son will be applying for the class of 2013 and has been emailing with the Navy coach of his sport.
The coach said,"He would get him there in the fall." Does the Navy actually pay your way for a recruiting visit in the fall? Or do you think he meant the candidate weekend visit? Do you think offers of appointment might materialize earlier if you are a highly recruited athlete and otherwise eligible? What is the date that you must commit if you are given an appointment - would that date be after you hear from the rest of the colleges? Sorry for so many questions!</p>
<p>My son was recruited and they followed the NCAA rules very carefully. One thing I would highly recommend is to attend a summer sports camp if at all possible. This was a big stepping stone for our son. It will also give you a feel for the school and possibly a chance to meet some of the members of the team you are interested in. They approached him after the camp. It gave him an idea of their interest in him as well. During his senior year he would get a call every week or two, I believe, as indicated by NCAA rules. It also seems like their was a time when they couldn't call. Our son had a medical issue and if I remember correctly, he could call them, but they couldn't call him. Bottom line, it was pretty much by the book--at least for his sport. Good Luck!!</p>
<p>See sdnavymom for how USMA recruited my son. Navy has been very different...he's going to CVW, not NCAA visit. However, since he is a recruited athlete, while he's there, rules apply (i.e. must pay own way into league championship). You can go to the NCAA web site and read the rules...they are very clear as to what can/cannot happen at each year/stage of the process.</p>
<p>Actually Service academies can start talking to you long before the junior year. I know a young lady who got her first recruiting letter from a SA in the fall of her sophomore year. She even had a visit in her sophomore year.
There are many factors involved including the sport, the coach and the athletic level of the athlete.
A prospective athlete may always contact a coach.
Other rules do apply - including alumni and athletic supporter involvement and paying for visits etc...
This is why BGO's can be limited in their contact with a recruited athlete.
Navysupporter - has the coach had a conversation about SAT scores and high school course selection?
Recruited athletes absolutely must be academically qualified for direct admission.<br>
Service Academy athletes don't commit until they report in the summer - if they sign a LOI it isn't binding.
Being a recruited athlete MAY mean you get appointed sooner - again depends on many factors. If you are highly desired then the coach wants the appointment in your hand ASAP - and you may get an athletic LOA.
Recruited athletes must still get a nomination. This means applying to all 3 MOC's and the VP. Recruited athletes must never assume that a nomination is a given - apply for all available nominations.</p>
<p>Straight from the NCAA Bylaws (13.16.1.1)</p>
<p>"Members of the athletics staffs of the U.S. Air Force, Military, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine and Naval Academies, where Congressionally required institutional procedures applying to all cadets and midshipmen, regardless of athletics ability, are in conflict with the Association's legislation governing telephonic and off-campus recruiting contacts, may make in-person, telephonic and off-campus contacts during a prospective student-athlete's junior year in high school. The total number of such contacts, including those after the prospective student-athlete's junior year, shall not exceed the number permitted in the applicable sport."</p>
<p>JAM4 is right on target; however, depending on the sport, the SA may find a nom for you...typically if it is a revenue generating sport. For example, last week 3 boys from the same high school signed LOI for football....they said in the interview it had all transpired recently, and therefore did not go through the whole MOC nom process in the fall.</p>
<p>the recruiting trip was paid for including airfare, food, first night in B&B then Bancroft, and ticket to football game against Air Force. Each team has a representative that is responsible for liasioning with the Admissions Board to make sure everything gets in on time. She had everything done by October. Since my daughter had a Presidential Nom so she did not have to wait to hear from her Senators/Congressman although she did send in Nom packages to all of them just in case. The Admissions Board told the coach in November that she met the criteria and he called her and told her to expect an Appointment soon. She received it 5 days later.</p>
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<p>Then they may have ben in violation of NCAA recruiting rules, as they specifically state that in-person, telephonic and off-campus contacts from a service academy can only take place beginning the summer of the junior year.</p>
<p>Naval</a> Academy Athletic Association Compliance Web Page</p>
<p>The SAs do, for some sports, send recruiting literature in the form of questionaires and/or summer sports camp brochures, to selected freshmen and sophmore athletes. And it is not unheard of for coaches to suggest that prospects visit the campus, especially during weekends when their particular sport is playing.</p>
<p>sdnavymom: your daughter must be very, very fast to get the blue chip treatment. Son had contact from September on...but not that kind of treatment...congrats!!</p>
<p>"Then they may have ben in violation of NCAA recruiting rules, as they specifically state that in-person, telephonic and off-campus contacts from a service academy can only take place beginning the summer of the junior year."</p>
<p>Actually they can start talking to you at the start of your junior year as Jadler stated</p>
<p>"Straight from the NCAA Bylaws (13.16.1.1)</p>
<p>"Members of the athletics staffs of the U.S. Air Force, Military, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine and Naval Academies, where Congressionally required institutional procedures applying to all cadets and midshipmen, regardless of athletics ability, are in conflict with the Association's legislation governing telephonic and off-campus recruiting contacts, may make in-person, telephonic and off-campus contacts during a prospective student-athlete's junior year in high school. The total number of such contacts, including those after the prospective student-athlete's junior year, shall not exceed the number permitted in the applicable sport."</p>
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<p>Which is understood by the NCAA to begin on July 1, which I referred to as "beginning the summer of the junior year."</p>
<p>Perhaps it is clearer to state this date as "July 1st after the completion of your sophomore year."</p>
<p>Here is a recruiting chart from the NCAA website -
<a href="http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2007-08/recruitingchart.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2007-08/recruitingchart.pdf</a>
From what I have heard - the Service Academies may make contact a year earlier - due to the academic and nomination requirements.</p>
<p>The whole recruiting process is about as clear as mud - which leads to much confusion.</p>
<p>For those athletes who want to play D-1 sports at a service academy - do not overlook self-recruiting. toot your own horn!<br>
*You may contact a coach at any time. *</p>
<p>Make sure to follow NCAA rules.
Have the prospective candidate contact the coach.
Some coaches will have a "top recruits" day/visit to their academy. If they do, take advantage of it. They are seperate and appart from CVW, and are usually a one-day affair.
Do take advantage of summer camps.</p>
<p>Know the NCAA rules and follow them. Don't ever put a coach in an awkward postion that may bend, twist, tweek or otherwise break the rules; it does not bode well for either one of you.
And as good as you are, just remember you still have to make the team once you get there- recruited or not. </p>
<p>Best of luck!
Don't forget to register with the NCAA clearinghouse!!!</p>
<p>Luigi59- My fault I misread what you said.</p>
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<p>No worries, after you responded I went back and re-read my post and saw how it was confusing. Thanks for catching it. :)</p>