question to Admissions Daniel about premed

<p>i know hopkins is a great place, but on the Pre-Med thread many people have reported somethign that scares me</p>

<p>they say that ther "95% acceptance rate to medical school" is a very artificial number... this is because the admissions committee only writes letter of reccomendation to those they feel have a legit shot... and therefore that there is a screening process to weed out prospective medical school applicants that the committee feels wont get in</p>

<p>of course, "A student with a much lower GPA can still insist on having their application sent to the committee, yet Fishbein stressed this will most likely reflect badly in their recommendation..."</p>

<p>can you explain the whole weeding out of prospective medical students?</p>

<p>I've read on the JHU student blogs that there wasn't such a process.</p>

<p>hmmm can someone confirm this?</p>

<p>I don't have the time to look for it but there is an article posted on the Hopkins website that talks about this, the quote that stonecold is refering to comes from this article. I believe that the pre-med advisors ask students to have somewhere between a 3.0-3.2 if they want a positive recommendation, which, in my opinion is fair of them to ask.</p>

<p>So in the end, I don't think a 95% acceptance rate is really inflated. I would guess that 75% of the school has a 3.0 or above</p>

<p>The quote comes from this</a> article. I haven't had any personal experience with pre-professional advising, so I don't personally know about the process. If you want, you can look through the Hopkins</a> Guide to Applying to a Health Professions School <a href="20%20page%20pdf">i</a>*.</p>

<p>thanks alot... anyone know what the average GPA is? is there a website that breaks this down by course/major ?</p>

<p>The "weeding out" is a myth. The Preprofessional Advisors want to make sure that when they support a student for medical school they are supporting the right students -- or else in the future their letters of recommendation will not hold much of the same weight. </p>

<p>There are going to be minimal requirements for you as a premed student to meet -- don't meet those requirements and the assistance you get in applying to medical school will not be the same. These people know when they are doing and have an amazing track record.</p>

<p>< 3.2 won't get into medical school anyway. And how can you recommend someone with a 3.0? Remember a recommendation is a RECOMMENDATION they are not stoping you from applying with a 2.5 they are just not recommending you, because THEY (remember that's the definition of a recommendation, they are asked for their opinion) think you're not good enough. As far as I understand <3.3 from any school is going to have a nearly impossible time getting into med school.</p>

<p>what are those minimum reqs. needed to get the recs,</p>

<p>i read the preprof guide for health proffessions i remember reading they want your secondary school transcripts, by that they mean high school. I thought those grades don't count?!</p>

<p>scorp,</p>

<p>your numbers are wrong. people have been accepted into med schools with gpas lower than 3.0 and in general you will be accepted to some med schools (although not the best) with 3.2-3.3 (and a decent resume/mcat) hence the reason the premed advisors write favorable recs for these students.</p>

<p>does anyone have the answer to my ?</p>

<p>i guess i agree with this whole concept about what a recommendation really is, but dont you think its misleading of JHU to say 95% acceptance to medical school because the committee will not support ALL applications? At Cornell and some other schools, everyone who wants to apply is given a chance by the committee</p>

<p>Umm it's not misleading at all. JHU is not stopping you from applying they are just not recommending you which is their right to do. They are saying that of those applied 95% were accepted. They did not stop you from applying they just withheld their recommendation, because in their opinion you were not qualified to be recommended by them. Just because the
JHU recommendation is an honest recommendation as opposed to "Oh you'd like to apply to medical school? sure we'll recommend you, we recommend everybody even though this recommendation is supposed to be our assesment of weather or not we think you're good enough" if schools were to recommend EVERYBODY do you think it would be a recommendation? But on the other hand now the JHU recommendation is trully worth something where as the Cornell one, not as much.</p>