<p>why is it difficult? the hazing process and whatnot?</p>
<p>umm no. phi beta kappa is not a social fraternity. it’s the most competitive, venerable honors society in the nation.</p>
<p>was that suppose to be a tease calling me hetero-dragon?</p>
<p>o **** I thought that was your name when I GLIMPSED at it. sorry</p>
<p>yea I am a First-year student. Entering my 3rd semester this FALL. </p>
<p>So Naoise do you think I should apply for spring '10 or just stay safe and complete my associates?</p>
<p>i am slightly disturbed that community college students are given full rides to rutgers when students at my level aren’t. really disturbed, actually.</p>
<p>I don’t see what’s so disturbing about that =</p>
<p>There are plenty of smart students in community college, but maybe money was the issue.</p>
<p>I don’t even think that transfer students are given full rides to Rutgers anyway.</p>
<p>You clearly don’t understand the reasoning behind scholarships from Rutgers’ administrations or any other institution. Rutgers, like many other schools, only offer awards to first year students to attract them to the school. If you are already attending, they can careless because you have chosen to attend even when no scholarships were offered to you to win you over. I graduated CC with outstanding grades and credentials, and if Rutgers didn’t offer me the aid package I needed, I would have attended the many other schools that also offered me large aid packages.</p>
<p>“students at my level”? You are exaggerating your level of education.</p>
<p>what is so wrong about being rewarded for your efforts? regardless of past flaws, missteps, a ‘lower’ level of education, or however you want to word it, hard-working, high-achieving people still deserve recognition. I think that was the most pompous thing I’ve ever read on this board. </p>
<p>I am slightly disturbed by your arrogance. really disturbed, actually.</p>
<p>It’s funny you guys are getting so offended, most likely because you know you are less capable students than most. From your post in another thread, herothydragon:</p>
<p>"do not waste your time retaking the SAT. I scored a 1150 on mines out of 2400 because I too was a slacker in HS, and now I’m going to Rutgers with a full ride… "</p>
<p>naiose didn’t even crack 1400 on the old-style SAT.</p>
<p>You got an 1150 out of 2400 on your SAT, which is abysmal, slacking or no. I scored above a 2300 on mine (well above 1500 on the old-style SAT as well), was in the top 20% of my class, had plenty of extracurriculars and played sports on the varsity level for all 4 years of highschool and I was only given full tuition scholarship (a half ride or whatever you want to call it). I can guarantee hands down that I do better than both you and naoise at Rutgers and that both of you are considerably less intelligent than the average Rutgers student (which makes sense, given that you both had to attend community colleges). Yet because you did medicore in easy community college courses and transferred, you get a full ride when plenty of more intelligent, more capable students who deserve the money don’t? Makes no sense to me. I suppose it’s no wonder that the caliber of student is going down at Rutgers - they let people arrogant enough to think that doing well at community college of all places is some sort of “high achieving” accomplishment. It’s sad.</p>
<p>Continue struggling at Rutgers on a full-ride you didn’t really earn, kids. lol @ nanoise “i struggled for a B in expos”…what a joke.</p>
<p>Community college isn’t necessarily easier. I know a community college student who beat Ivy League students on a national organic chem test, and yet he got a B from his professor. It’s not fair for you to attack the others when you don’t know for sure how they’re doing academically. There are plenty of people who shape up from high school.</p>
<p>"do not waste your time retaking the SAT. I scored a 1150 on mines out of 2400 because I too was a slacker in HS, and now I’m going to Rutgers with a full ride… "</p>
<p>lol … you’re not going to get into rutgers with an 1150/2400. much less a full ride.</p>
<p>This is getting entertaining. First of all, SAT scores are a measure of ambition, not intelligence. If I was really dedicated, all I had to do was go to a bunch of “classes” to prepare for it. I took the test only once and sped through each section so I could have more time to put my head down for a little nap. The point is that low SAT scores and even a low GPA does not mean one is unintelligent. You are very narrow minded and brainwashed if you thought so.</p>
<p>Have you ever took a course in community college? If you haven’t, you need to stop speaking from ignorance.
In the summers, many Rutgers students return back home and take classes in their local community colleges for variety of reasons. In fact, Rutgers students were the majority in my summer classes. I believe I did earn that full-ride from Rutgers because I scored the highest on all the exams and projects compared to the Rutgers students. I am not claiming that I am more intelligent than any of them but that I worked harder than them. I will never allow my high gpa or test scores to fill my head up and make me pretentious.<br>
You are just an example of someone with good grades but have poor people skills and emotional intelligence despite your ability to handle academic work.</p>
<p>1150/2400 is very laughable. hahaha But the funniest part is that I did get accepted to Rutgers, and they are giving me a full ride hehe. Like I said before, Rutgers don’t look at SAT scores if it has been 2+ years sine one graduated from hs.</p>
<p>hey mister carbonate (you might be a woman, but i’m gonna call you that anyway. you dig?):</p>
<p>first off, stop grouping me together with heretothydragon. I NEVER went to community college; I was merely defending heretothy. and I find it amusing that it’s obvious that you looked through my past posts looking for my SAT scores, but managed to skip over the part where I said I was a first-year (now second-year) student at Rutgers. You also managed to ignore the part where I said that I, too, am in the honors program, so get off your high horse. </p>
<p>Yeah, I did not get a 1400. I got a 1390. which is just a terrible, laughable score. I didn’t take sat classes, didn’t really care enough to spend the extra money to. I also didn’t have the extra money to take classes. yay being poor! But I was able to make it to the same place where you are now. And I graduated top 10% of my high school graduating class. I, too, held many leadership positions in high school (just take another gander at my past posts, if you want the details). I also find it odd that despite your fantastic SAT scores, that you only managed to get the 10k scholarship as opposed to the full ride. bitter much?</p>
<p>yeah, I sucked at expos. I’m just terrible at formulaic, dry writing, ya know?</p>
<p>And yes, I am an average student at Rutgers University. You skipped the part in my previous posts that said that I got a 4.0 my first semester, and now i have an abysmal 3.8. I’m just ashamed of myself.</p>
<p>mister carbonate, come september, let’s just get together in the brett hall lounge and talk about dean muffin lord, our capstone ideas, and other hp stuff. you just seem like a wonderfully amiable, intellectual person with a sparkling personality and tons of humility to go along with it. and then we can just hug it out, and all this silliness can be over. sound good?</p>
<p>I’m glad my thread was such a hit :0. </p>
<p>Looks like I’m going to have to get my Associates degree to better my chances at Rutgers like hero did. Im hoping I get offered a financial package as well. thanks guys.</p>
<p>SAT scores are about intelligence more so than ambition. Ambition has a bit to do with it, but not much. Taking courses for the SAT has nothing to do with anything. I didn’t take one and I managed to break 2300, and most of the people I know that did similarly also did not take courses. The fact you think taking courses correlates to a high SAT score is laughable. Only people that do poorly on the SAT (i.e. you two) try to make weak arguments and excuses about why they didn’t do well. You didn’t do well because you weren’t smart enough to do well, period. </p>
<p>As for community colleges being in any way close to the difficulty of the real deal…lol. Keep trying to fool yourself. Any respected person working in academia, from professors to admissions committee members, will tell you that community college courses are considered a joke and no matter how much you try to fool yourself, it will always remain that way. The fact that Rutgers students did poorly in community college says nothing - anyone can do poorly, even in community college, by not putting the time in. Doing well in community college is still a joke because of how easy it is, and it’s really that simple. </p>
<p>As for “naoise”, I didn’t need to “look through your posts” (you make me sound like some sort of detective, it took about two clicks of a mouse to get some background on who I was talking to - it’s called being informed, see?). You brought the similarly weak “but i didn’t take SAT classes!!11” argument that screams incapable. Bitter about the scholarship situation? Have you even been paying attention to what we’ve been talking about? The point is that many students, not just myself, are considerably more capable than you and people like herothydragon, yet do not have full rides, while weaker students such as yourselves do. It is not about being “bitter”, as much as it is a commentary about the unjustness of the situation. Your SAT score sucks considering the scholarship you have, your excuse for doing bad in expos (dry, formulaic writing? did you even take expos? it was as unformulaic as a writing course can get - then again, your inability to understand the course, most likely due to lack of intellect, certainly explains your poor course performance) is weak, you find a 3.8 to be brag-worthy, and your attempt to cram sarcasm into that last abortion of a paragraph (is it supposed to be a witty taunt of some sort?) was just soft. Try again.</p>
<p>Carbonate - People grow and develop at different times in their life. Money is a big issue for many students and just because a student begins at a four year institution, it does mean they will finish or be more successful then those transferring from a two year college. Admire the fact that they are striving to educate themself and continue their education.</p>
<p>Also, Naoise has been kind enough to share her experiences to help others and not to be judge for honesty.</p>