Questions regarding repeaters

<p>I am applying to boarding school as a repeat 10th grader. I have some questions:</p>

<p>1) National Merit Commended/Semifinalists- Do you guys know what PSAT score is used, or even if I would be eligible for this if I repeat? I am currently a 10th grader and I am applying to boarding school as a repeat 10th grader. So, if I am accepted to boarding school as a repeat 10th grader will my PSAT score this next fall (my repeat 10th grade year) count, or will my PSAT score the following year, my 11th grade year (even though it will be the fall of my 4th year in high school), count? Or will I not be eligible since I would have 5 years of high school?</p>

<p>2) National Hispanic Recognition Program- It states that to qualify you have to meet the minimum score on your 11th grade PSAT and have an overall weighted GPA of 3.0 for commended or 3.5 for scholar. If I am accepted to boarding school, how will they calculate my GPA to determine if I have over a 3.5 weighted GPA? At my present school I have over a 4.0 weighted GPA. So if I have let's say a 4.2 for my first two years of high school, and then I go to a boarding school for the next 3 years will they average my 2 years of my current school GPA together with the next 2 years of my boarding school GPA (assuming I get accepted)? Or would they simply look at the GPA of the boarding school since that would be my current school?</p>

<p>3) NCAA rules- I have read that NCAA rules require kids to take a certain amount of classes. I have also read that it states that a kid MUST take 4 years (4 different levels) of English by the end of their 4th year in high school. It appears that boarding schools are going to provide placement tests to place us in the correct level of Math and Languages. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that the one class we will all have to repeat is English. One boarding school's website specifically says that if you are a repeater pay very close attention to NCAA rules on Math and English if you are potentially thinking about playing Division I or Division III sports in college. This school's website specifically says that if you are a repeater and you might plan on playing NCAA sports you will possibly need to take Junior and Senior level English in 11th grade in order to comply with NCAA guidelines. Why? Because if the baording school is having you take 10th grade English again when you do your repeat 10th grade year, and then you take 11th grade English in 11th grade then you will not meet the NCAA's requirement of completing 4 years of 4 different levels of high school English in the "first four years" of high school. Has anyone had a kid who this has affected? It seems like if this is the rule, the boarding school would go ahead and let you take 11th grade English in the repeat 10th grade year and then 12th grade English in 11th grade in order to meet NCAA requirements, right? On the other hand, if I recall, almost every school I am applying to stated that I would retake 10th grade English when I asked them about this at the school visits. At the time, I had not read anything about NCAA regulations. I simply asked the question of what level of English would I be placed in, and almost all of them said that repeaters repeat 10th grade English. </p>

<p>The issue I recognize now is that unless one takes 11th and 12th grade English in 11th grade, they will not meet NCAA guidelines if they were to take 10th grade English again in 10th grade.</p>

<p>Does anyone have the answers? Thanks</p>

<p>I pass… brownie point?</p>

<p>WOW just reading these questions stressed me out!! I feel so bad I can’t help you because they seem like some pretty essential things to know!</p>

<p>The PSAT score used will be the one taken in the second to last year of high school. This allows for repeats.</p>

<p>I know nothing about NCAA or how it effects GPA.</p>

<p>Hmmm… you might come under the “academic red shirt” category. And the rules are slightly different for the class of 2016 and after. Start here:
[Initial-Eligibility</a> - NCAA.org](<a href=“http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Eligibility/Becoming+Eligible/]Initial-Eligibility”>http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Eligibility/Becoming+Eligible/)
There are some good links off this section.
I would contact the NCAA directly and ask the specific question.</p>

<p>I agree with girlgeekmom; the NCAA are the only 100% reliable source for such an important question</p>

<p>These are good questions and things I don’t think about. I did wonder about the PSAT thing, but when I called the testing service number they said they’ll count my score again for National Merit (repeat 11th).</p>

<p>girlgeek. Excellent!! No I don’t fall under the redshirt. Under the new rules for 2016 students I would qualify. Excellent, so now I need not worry about having to redo 10th grade English if that is what boarding schools require. Nor will I need to double up on English in 11th grade.</p>

<p>So now the only unanswered question is #2 regarding how they will calculate GPA to qualify as NHRP.</p>

<p>hmmm…after further review, I’m not sure. I’ll call NCAA next week. I got this off one of the school’s websites. This states that one must complete “ALL” core courses by the end of the 8th semester.</p>

<p>NCAA Guidelines for Course Registration </p>

<p>NCAA has specific requirements for eligibility. If you have aspirations to play NCAA athletics at a Division I or Division II college, you must meet their core course requirements by the end of your fourth year of high school, which can be tricky if you have repeated a grade or gone to an International high school.</p>

<p>Core Courses Required</p>

<p>There are 16 core course requirements for Division I and 14 for Division II colleges.</p>

<p>Repeating a Grade</p>

<p>From the time you first begin ninth grade, you have four years (eight semesters) to complete your core-course requirements. THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT: if you repeated a grade, your window for completing all requisite courses closes at the end of your junior year.</p>

<p>Further, when repeating a grade upon entering “A HADES School that I found this on their website”, you may lose NCAA credit for one or more classes—often in English, occasionally in Math—taken at your previous school. If NCAA deems that two courses duplicate each other, they will deny credit for one. Hence, if two English courses could be deemed duplicative, we recommend you double up in English in your junior year by adding a senior-level English.</p>

<p>One way to avoid doubling up is to request an early determination by the NCAA. The NCAA will consider this only in your junior (or third) year (see “Juniors” below). Overt interest from a college can be a powerful catalyst. If a college is interested in you, please let the NCAA know as soon as possible. The college can then act on your behalf, in facilitating an early determination of eligibility, which could obviate the need for doubling up on a course (i.e. English). Final approval is based on a completed transcript.</p>

<p>@neato, NCAA does not affect GPA. It has specific GPA requirements for Div. I and Div. II.</p>

<p>@bshopeful, it does sound like you’d still have to double up, unless you can hit the ground running with good communication with NCAA (as soon as you know where you’ve been accepted, say). Because repeating 10th IS your “third” year, and it looks like an early determination would solve the problem of doubling up in English. </p>

<p>Again, I’d recommend a direct contact with NCAA stating your specific question. The website is good, but it does, at this time of transition, seem to present some conflicting information. I’d want it, first by phone and then in writing (a followup email, say), directly from a human being at NCAA.</p>

<p>It sounds like you’re very thorough. Once you know where you’ve been accepted, you’ll also be able to find out how flexible they are regarding NCAA requirements, as well (because they’ll want you to fulfill theirs, primarily).</p>

<p>Wait, so the NCAA is just a college sports thing, so should I only worry about it if I plan on doing a college sport?</p>

<p>Oh and please excuse my ignorance :)</p>

<p>Yes, Ambi. You can stick to the general worries for another couple of days ;)</p>

<p>Hahahaha thats a relief! :D</p>

<p>The other post about psat was wrong. If you are a repeat 9th/10th grader, regardless of age, BOTH 10 th and 11th grade scores are recorded. To get national merit, you need to qualify both years.</p>

<p>It was such a tragedy at our school. One of our best football players was not allowed to do ANY team sports because he was a repeat 9th grader. The NCAA is so strict about that.</p>

<p>:O thats so horrible!</p>