Quick question on Out Of State College Tuition

Hello everyone!

I hope I didn’t place this in the wrong forum. This is my first time using the website.

I was wondering, let’s say I went to University of Santa Barbara. I live in Texas so I would be an out of state student and wouldn’t qualify for an in state discount. But if I went there for a full semester, once the new school year rolls in could I get an in state discount? Since, I would have been there for a year.

Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

No.

Nope. As an undergraduate who did not reside in CA for three years of HS, you would not be legible for instate tuition in CA. Your state of residency is the state in which your parents reside…Texas.

And I believe I read that the CA public universities will no longer be offering financial aid to OOS students.

If you want instate rates…there are lots of choices in Texas for you now.

OR…you could have your whole family relocate to CA, wait a full year before attending college…and I think you would have instate status.

No such college as “University of Santa Barbara”.

The University of California schools are publicly funded California state schools funded by the state and its taxpayers…

**UC Santa Barbara **will be $55K per year. @BobWallace is right, there is no University of Santa Barbara.
Just going to UC Santa Barbara for a year does not make you an instate resident.

California residents have been paying horrendous state taxes for years. Living as a student, in California, for one year means you haven’t paid a dime in state income taxes. Working a part time job won’t cut it either.

California residency requirements are extremely strict because so many students try to game the system. http://www.ucop.edu/general-counsel/_files/ed-affairs/uc-residence-policy.pdf
Coming to California for educational purposes means that you get billed OOS rates for 4 years. Big clue to the residency determination is your high school diploma.

If your parents reside in Texas, that’s where your residency is. If your parents claim you on their taxes, that’s where your taxes go and not to California.

You will end up paying $220,000 to go to California for your education. This is very expensive for a state college education. There is no such thing as an OOS discount for going to a UC for a semester.

Sorry I meant University of california at santa barbara.

No, you won’t qualify for instate status after attending college in CA for a year. You will be an OOS student because your parents reside out of state.

What’s wrong with the instate universities in TX?

I picked University of California at Santa Barbara because it has a good ranked Physics and Engineering programming.
In Texas the only other school that could compare is University of Texas at Austin which is also on my list.
University of California Santa Barbara also sends it’s student abroad often and a world leader for there research. I wanted a school like that. But, I think $222,000 in debt is a lot. However, I think I would qualify for financial aid of course.

The thing is I just wanted to go out of Texas for college.

No financial aid for OOS students starting 16/17.

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Really? What about Rice? What about Texas A&M? What about Texas Tech? What about UTDallas?

You’d get no financial aid from a UC.

And you can probably only borrow $5500 freshman year, $6500 soph year, and $7500 Jr. and sr years. It is completely unaffordable.

You should run the net price calculators on the websites for all your schools. Some in-state students even struggle to afford UT, too.

Not in California.

Aid comes from the State of California and goes to the state universities.

The State of California has no money and will not fund an out-of-state student, regardless of your financial status. They have limited funds for residents, so they couldn’t fund an OOS student.

You can get out of Texas once you graduate college with an affordable degree.

Why pay more if you don’t have to?

Or if you have the stats for full tuition merit at U Alabama, they have a great engineering program and one CC member’s son is getting a great physics education there and has been doing research since freshman year.

Just in case you missed it in posts 2, 8, 9, and 11 above:

YOU WILL NOT GET FINANCIAL AID AT UC SANTA BARBARA!

Thanks everyone for replying, sorry I am late with my responses.

Rice University is a private school and in Texas that means it does not qualify for instate discount does not apply to it. It’s pretty expensive, and also it is hard to get into.

I am a sophmore in highschool. I’m just getting my college list together, I haven’t actually applied to any of these schools.

Wait, wait. Just to be absolutely clear, Out of state students don’t qualify for ANY financial aid from the school as of beginning in 2016??

Okay. If so, then yeah, I won’t think about UC Santa Barbara anymore.

UT Dallas and Texas Tech and A&M, I kind of didn’t look at those. I like where UT of Texas is situated in Austin, and it’s ranked higher than the other. But I have A&M as a safety school. Although UT has a high acceptance rate, so I don’t think it’s hard to get into.

I’ll check out University of Alabama though.

Oh my OP, you are very mis-informed. Engineering and Physics. Texas A & M. TAMU is one of the largest engineering programs in the country. Sure, UT-Austin too. You can probably receive a degree at some of the other public universities in TX, and if financially strapped or if not getting into UT or TAMU right off the bat, can transfer in later.

Somehow you have read something that makes you think a UC school will be terrific above all other UG, and you think even if accepted that you can sign up for all that debt.

Friend’s DD at TAMU in ChE is doing a semester abroad in Wales.

Back when I received my graduate degree at TAMU, next door to our home was a nuclear physicist - his research was at one of the 10 Universities in the country that had the nuclear reactor capabilities (the list has grown to 24).

According to Wikipedia each of these Universities have a nuclear reactor:

Idaho State University
Kansas State University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Missouri University of Science and Technology
North Carolina State University
Ohio State University
Oregon State University
Penn State University
Purdue University
Reed College
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Texas A&M University
University of Arizona
University of California-Davis
University of California, Irvine
University of Florida

University of Maryland
University of Massachusetts Lowell
University of Missouri Columbia
University of New Mexico
University of Texas at Austin
University of Texas at Austin
University of Wisconsin–Madison
Washington State University

I just read the list of top physics universities from U.S. News. :-" I should have went more indepth. Your list is so helpful though, I want to study nuclear and atomic physics.

I have UT Austin and A&M on my list. I was only considering University of Illinois Urbana Champaign and University of California at Santa Barbara for public out of state schools, because I know it is expensive to go out of state.

~ thanks!

And Reed is the only university in the country where undergrads are trained to handle it.

Texas admissions depend on class rank. Then, acceptance to your major depends on everything you’ve done. Foe engineering or physics you’ll need to be very, very good - top 5% of your high school class with A’s in AP calculus, AP physics, and AP chemistry or CS.

Depending on your family income (more or less than 125k?), Rice could be cheaper than UT or TAMU. But yes it’s very hard to get into.

Look at Southwestern ; for California, can poly slo and can poly Pomona.

Don’t forget to practice for the sat/psat over the summer since the psat will open up big scholarship possibilities.

OP due to the way UT and TAMU have to take a percentage of students from applicants in top % of Texas schools, no way should you be thinking that TAMU is a ‘safety’. You say you are a HS sophomore. Be sure you test well on ACT or SAT, and keep your HS GPA up.

Keep exploring what you do want to study - make the most out of HS by taking advantage of opportunities there - AP, IB, dual enrollment. Make sure you are working your brain, and putting in the time and effort.

You parents will have a say on how much they are willing to spend for college. You need to have a discussion with them. Texas is a big state. Your parents may want you to attend a West TX school if you live in that area for example. They may say start at a community college and work some while living at home. Both UT and TAMU have other campuses.

College is quite different than HS. Engineering and Physics are not easy majors. The aptitude and study efforts needed at college level are different than HS.

I would suggest you research carefully your in-state options.

There are one week college programs for rising HS juniors and seniors to explore engineering (and certainly other programs for other majors). This can help you explore your career path before you get to college.

You also need to perhaps educate yourself by looking around College Confidential.

Only if you have high stats, strong GPA and strong standard test scores (SAT, ACT, maybe NM?), and parent finances, do you need to be looking OOS.

It is not just going to a school with this program or that which is going to have you be able to complete - some schools do limit enrollment in various degrees. If you do not have the aptitude or the study skills to complete the coursework, you will also fall short.

Thanks for the advice!

I’m aiming to get into top 5% (or 7%) And I’ve already begun my SAT Prep (I’m not gonna take the ACT so I can focus on one). I’m taking AP classes for my junior year. But I fall short on volunteering and sports, although I do participate in extra curriculars.

My parent’s make about $65,000 per year. We’ve talked about college. My dad wants me to stay in Texas and close to him. I live like 2 or 3 hours away from Austin and close to college station that’s why I would just consider these campuses. So he likes that. But my Mom actually pushes me to go out of state because she thinks that if I go to school in Texas I will stay in Texas forever, and she doesn’t like Texas and wants me to live on the west coast.

I think they expect me to go straight to university, because they look down on community college. I know it’s cheaper to go 2 years there though and transfer. But I don’t think I will do that.

I’ve been looking into Physics lately to see if I could imagine myself taking it, but I will be taking in in 11th grade so I will see this upcoming year.