Quick question regarding maximum transferrable units.

<p>I'm tagging to UCSD this year, and I'm concerned that I may hit my unit cap before I transfer unless I wait to finish my major prerequisites. </p>

<p>I will have 82 semester units completed (3 of which are from Humboldt State) by the end of this spring. I also am planning on taking second semester Calculus, which brings me to 86 units, during the summer '11 session so that I don't have to deal with it later. </p>

<p>The issue comes up because I did a summer program during high school with Parsons School of Design and managed to get an F, so I have 4 units attempted on my transcript. Do the UCs count units attempted in the grand total? I realize that it'll affect my GPA (if it's even transferable) but I haven't been able to come up with a definite answer about how it could affect my units. I want to let San Diego know that I'm going to finish with my major coursework for Psychology if I am. </p>

<p>Thanks in advance to anyone with insight into this.</p>

<p>So of the 82, 79 are from a CC? Then an additional 4 from the design school? </p>

<p>You’re fine. You can have as many units as you want, but they’ll only accept a maximum of 90, 20 (semester) of which are allowed to be from a 4 year school. </p>

<p>For example, if you have 100 CC units and 10 units from a UC, you’re still eligible. They’ll only take 90 of those, but the rest will still factor into your overall GPA.</p>

<p>Sorry, @Grimes99, but I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. UCSD has a firm limit of 90 UC-transferable units, once any have been completed at a four-year. So if you took one transferable 3-unit class at a CSU, then took 88 UC-transferable units at a CCC, you would be ineligible for admission. It would be nice if they would only allow 90 to be transferred, but the policy is, if you have 90 or more, you can’t attend UCSD, period.</p>

<p>Your post sounds a bit like UCLA’s policy, which says that as long as you have less than 86 UC-transferable units from a four-year, you can have as many CCC units as you like. </p>

<p>This is based on a page that used to be on universityofcalifornia.edu, but which is now broken. That content is mirrored here: <a href=“http://www.cabrillo.edu/services/articulation/PDFs%20for%20Site/ucunitlimits_4yr_2yr.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cabrillo.edu/services/articulation/PDFs%20for%20Site/ucunitlimits_4yr_2yr.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you’re aware of a new policy, do post it. :)</p>

<p>You can have as many units as u want if you’ve only attended ccc, but I’m not sure if it’s okay when you have attended 4yr university. I confirmed with so many reps from UCs that there’s no “too many units” if I only attended ccc. Check with a counselor at your cc.</p>

<p>@nick_scheu: You’re incorrect. I spoke with multiple UCSD admissions officers last year about this exact issue as it relates to me and I got the same answer from all of them. Additionally, I reconfirmed with the admissions counselor I’ve been speaking with for over a year now to ensure that this is permitted. </p>

<p>Personally, I have 114 CC units and I’m spending this quarter at UCI where I’ll have gained 16 units. I’m then withdrawing and entering UCSD this upcoming fall. You are limited to a maximum of 20 semester (30 quarter) units from a UC/4 four. UCSD will only take 90 semester units total, and of those a maximum of 20 can be from a UC/CSU. If you have 21, you’re counted as a UC to UC transfer or a CSU to UC transfer. </p>

<p>Again, this was confirmed with three admissions officers at UCSD last year and was reaffirmed by one of them when I emailed her back and forth about two months ago. I even had the director of the Division of Student Affairs in on the meeting with one of the admissions officers and she agreed with everything that was told to me.</p>

<p>Additionally, the only time at which UCSD will flat out deny you for admission is if you’re applying as a senior transfer. You can have as many units as you want up to being a junior in standing, but UCSD does not accept senior transfers. Now, if you have more than 20 semester units from a UC/CSU, things certainly get much tougher since you’re no longer counted as a CC transfer and thus get back of the line treatment, but it’s never “impossible” to transfer until you hit senior status.</p>

<p>Ah yes, I see where you’re coming from now. My apologies. I, too, have spoken with numerous UCSD (and UCOP, actually) officials, and I always got the impression that my understanding above was correct. However, their responses were tailored to my situation, leaving out situations like yours.</p>

<p>I have 27 units from an out-of-state four-year. Since 90 units gives a student senior standing, that means I can only do 62 units at a CCC (89 total). However, people who have less than 20 four-year units are free to take as many CCC units as they want, since only 70 will be counted. I was under the impression that all CCC units plus all four-year units would be counted for admission purposes (although only 70 of the CCC units would ultimately be granted unit transfer credit), but what you’re saying makes sense.</p>

<p>However, I’m not sure about your explanation of what qualifies a student as a CC transfer. UCSD’s TAG website reads:

As I read it, that means you could have 27 four-year units plus 60 CCC units (which would have to be the most recent), and still qualify as a CCC transfer. Am I missing something? FWIW, I got my Davis TAG with exactly this breakdown. My UCSD rep said I should be fine for TAG as well, but I know enough about your story to take what UCSD says with a grain of salt.</p>

<p>There is one caveat to your explanation, though… UCSD specifies that students with 90 or more semester units have reached senior standing. So I believe the limit is 89, meaning the maximum number of four-year units is 19 (not 20), if you have 70 or more from a CCC.</p>

<p>You plan on taking a class the summer immediately before you transfer? Check to see if UCSD will even count those units towards your unit max. I know UCLA does not. But, UCLA does do things differently so definitely check.</p>

<p>Well that makes the class I took at BYU in high school very interesting, of course my TAP counselor said not to worry since it was done in high school, it’s on my high school 'scripts, and it was in a very basic math course. Cause I have about… 118 units by the end of Spring otherwise, all 118 from CCC level</p>

<p>@nick_scheu:</p>

<p>Yeah I read that in another post (the UCSD quote regarding CCC students.) That part threw me off as well, as I have been told by everyone I’ve talked to at UCSD that if you go over the 20 unit limit at a UC (30 quarter,) you will always be considered a UC to UC transfer from that point forward. I’m assuming this is the same for other 4 year universities. I wouldn’t be surprised if that bit of info is incomplete and is more of a general guideline that excludes the small number of cases where you have students who have gained more than 30 quarter/20 semester units at a 4 year. This is UCSD we’re talking about here… clarity isn’t their strongest virtue. </p>

<p>And yes, you seem to be right about the 89 unit limit, rather than it being 90:</p>

<pre><code>* Senior standing means you would have 90 or more UC-transferable semester units (or 135 quarter units) from accredited four-year universities and community colleges, combined.

  • You cannot reach senior standing with only community college units; in other words, if you have attended only community college (one or more), then no matter how many units you have completed, you are eligible for the TAG program. Please note that a maximum of 70 UC transferable community college semester (or 105 quarter units) will be accepted toward graduation; any units beyond those limits may result in subject credit being awarded.
  • All UC-transferable units completed at a four-year university apply toward the limit of 90 semester units (or 135 quarter units).
  • Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate units earned prior to graduating from high school do not apply to the limit of 90 semester units (or 135 quarter units).
    </code></pre>

<p>Thanks for your answers, everybody. I’m fairly certain that the Parsons units won’t even transfer, but it’s better to be safe than sorry, especially with UCSD.</p>