Quick questions about McGill.

<p>Hello all, first off I know about the impersonal and large classes. This is a positive for me, I detest hand holding and independence is like air for me. Not to mention theres more potential to meet people. Now that that's out of the way, I'm also aware that you must do well in order to get into a "top grad school", though, just like my undergrad applications, I doubt I will want to apply to anywhere like those, regardless that I have the grade.</p>

<p>With that being said, I hear the social life is great is that true? Also, the surrounding area I hear is huge and diverse, any details on that? What about diversity on the school campus?</p>

<p>Last and not least, how's the aid to Americans. With stats like mine will I be able to get some?</p>

<p>GPA 3.9
SAT 1970 (Retaking for 2100)
10/90 something (will go up when weighted)
Worked 20+hours a week since fourteen.
Worked in a real estate office 40 hours a week summer.
Track and field medal for freshmen year.
YAC member
Deca Treasurer 11th and 12th.
Other things as well.</p>

<p>Thanks :).</p>

<p>One of the threads had the median SAT scores for admitted students in 2006</p>

<p>I believe they were 680 for Verbal, 680 for Math, and 680 for Writing. Some majors require SAT IIs with minimum scores required as well. Also, what's your GPA for years 2, 3 and 4 of high school?--It appears McGill doesn't consider or at least gives much less weight to year 1 high school grades</p>

<p>Ok the diversity of the campus, most are white but there are some asian as well and little african.</p>

<p>I would not count on aid. They have some scholarships but not many, and your stats, although excellent, are not not exceptional for those who apply to the school. I am not clear as to who qualifies for the scholarships. As for living in Montreal, my d has just started at McGill and she is, so far, extremely happy with the city and her choice of schools. Also, if you read other posts on this thread and the admissions info in the McGill website, you will see that McGill looks at only your grades and standardized tests. You can submit ACT scores also.</p>

<p>hyakku - Are you aware of the tuition for internationals? I assume you are American. When our son was accepted to McGill we truly had no idea what the tuition was. I had to peel my husband off the ceiling - in a good way!</p>

<p>I'm not quite sure what you mean woody, but I will research that.</p>

<p>Thanks for the feedback everyone, anything else?</p>

<p>Edit: Oh, the SAT IIs are required if I haven't taken the ACT's? Damn, I wanted to apply earlier now if I want to ill have to wait. Did anyone apply and get accepted who didnt do that?</p>

<p>You should get in, and McGill is relatively cheap for international students.</p>

<p>From the McGill web site at <a href="http://www.mcgill.ca/applying/undergrad2008-09/usa/#ADMISSION_REQUIREMENTS%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mcgill.ca/applying/undergrad2008-09/usa/#ADMISSION_REQUIREMENTS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You must have taken the following (unless applying only to Music):</p>

<pre><code>* either the ACT OR
* the new SAT I plus at least two SAT IIs
</code></pre>

<p>See individual faculty requirements for SAT II subjects.</p>

<p>Notice that it is an "OR".</p>

<p>Damn, so let me ask, I know this isn't the forum, but how much harder is the ACT than the SAT? If I get a 2100 on the SAT should I just take the ACT on the simple basis that I won't need SAT IIs?</p>

<p>Edit:</p>

<p>Also, should I apply early as possible and then send in my updateds SAT / ACT scores or just wait to take the second test?</p>

<p>As I understand it, the difference between the ACT and SAT is not a matter of hardness. One or the other may be "harder" for you based on your learning style. The ACT is more fact-based and tests what you have achieved academically; hence there is no requirement to take any additional subject tests. The SAT questions are more designed to measure learning ability and cognitive skills than facts. That is why you need the SAT II's, to show subject mastery.</p>

<p>McGill does not have ED/EA. There is some sort of rolling admissions but that wont happen at the earliest until early 2008, so you have plenty of time to submit your scores.</p>

<p>It's the science that worries me, I've taken many classes and I've always done really well on state tests, but I thought that those were just easy. I'm no professor in physics or something like that, so if it's anything like that or AP bio courses I'll be screwed, but I'm gonna look at some practice ones hope that they are a bit easier then I expect. What should I shoot for for around a 2100 or so? 30?</p>

<p>Well i have taken both
I got a 1900 sat
and a 30 act (which will only go up when i take it saturday)
I prefer the ACT. But if you do take it, make sure you practice and read the forums here on tips.</p>

<p>The sat sucks
It has easy level math, but then they ask it all with terrible grammar and you get questions wrong because they dont know how to speak english (not literally, but the math is all pretty basic level)
Then the reading. Its is all about tones and inferences, rather than basic textual information</p>

<p>The ACT
English- punctuation and grammatical correctness (it is not like SAT writing)
Math-More complex than sat, but more straightforward (u should have taken pre calc) Instead of asking stupid million part questions like the SAT, it will simply say "solve" or something like that.
Reading-read the passages and answere questions based off of the reading (much better than SAT cr)
Science- if you can analyze graphs, than you should be pretty much good to go. It basically gives u experiment results in tables or graphs, and you make inferences based on them.</p>

<p>That being said, the only hard part of the ACT is time. I finish the english with 10 minutes to go, but the rest...oh man.
You MUST practice taking the ACT, and MUST time yourself. This test is insanely fast. If you went at SAT pace, you will die.</p>

<p>Basically, do the english and math fast, and with reading and science, you dont really want to read the whole section at all. Just maybe some rules, and then look at the questions and refer to the passage. Basically just skim the text.</p>

<p>Thanks for the tips, do you know how long they generally take to come back? If I do better than a 21 maybe ill just use those everywhere.</p>

<p>do you know if you're considered international if you're a US permanent resident but a Canadian citizen?</p>

<p>CNI, from what I remember, there are three tuition tiers...one for internationals, one for Canadian citizens regardless of where you went to school (if I remember correctly), and one for Quebec born individuals also regardless of where you went to school. My D fits into the last category, Quebec born and US/Canadian citizenship, schooled in US. Look under the tuition facts on McGill website...it's well outlined.</p>

<p>Quebec tuition is for Quebec "residents". It includes all Quebec-born students regardless of actual residence or place of education, but is not limited to that. It also includes those who've done high school and cegep in Quebec, and landed immigrants with a CSQ document (Quebec, unlike other provinces, has control over its immigration policies). The criteria can be found buried in [url="<a href="http://www.mcgill.ca/conted-students/forms%22%5Dhere%5B/url"&gt;www.mcgill.ca/conted-students/forms"]here[/url&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/p>

<p>There are also international fee exemptions (which translates to Quebec tuition) for particular international students (from countries with special agreements with Quebec, which include a number of Francophonie members such as France). As always, there are forms to fill...</p>