<p>Im really looking into Notre Dame as a top choice for college. Im wondering if being a minority (chinese) will improve my chances at Notre Dame. I saw the statistics, and the asian population is only 5% My grades are ok and i have alot of ec's and leadership positions, and i volunteer. Will being asian give me any advantage in getting into ND?</p>
<p>I would like to know too. Anyone know?</p>
<p>Race is not supposed to be taken into consideration except for URMS in college admissions. I don't know of any colleges that sorts their kids by race or ethnicity except for the the International students and, of course, the URM category. I have often responded to posts that feel that Asians are isolated by adcoms and then discriminated against with a joinder that there are a number of colleges with a dearth of Asians, and if any Asian kids want a benefit from their ethnicity, that is where they should apply. But several sources in midwestern schools have told me that they simply do not look for Asian kids. They are race blind except for the URM category and internationals. </p>
<p>I would venture to say that when you apply to a school low in number of Asians, there will be fewer of the stereotypical Asian apps so if you have a profile of that sort, you won't join as big of stack of that type. But Asians are not the only students who have this profile. Psychologically, it could be a "tip" factor. But I have been told by some who is directly in admissions that Asian kids are not "tagged" at Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Yes. Only at Notre Dame though. Well, that's what I heard at least.</p>
<p>Thanks alot for your responses. Anyone else want to put in their own 2 cents?</p>
<p>I'd say your volunteering and leadership will be worth more than being Asian, red_eye. Good luck!</p>
<p>Hey if I'm a Korean and a catholic, do you think i'll have a good shot with 1370 SAT and good grades/essay/rec?</p>
<p>5% is still overrepresented for the US popluation. Only if a group is UNDERRESPENTED does it help.</p>
<p>Wow thanks, that definately made my acceptance seem like less of an accomplishment</p>
<p>I heard from my counselor that ND got a new chancellor or something (i'm not christian so i don't really know the religious positions) and he's really pushing for some diversity .. So she told me to apply there and said I would probably get a lot of money if i get in.. I was invited to the spring visitation weekend, so I'm assuming that all went well and that I'm in (i applied regular decision) .. but i don't know anything about money yet..</p>
<p>I don't think it will make one bit of difference. The only time race/ethnicity makes a differnce is when the school is seeking URMs. Those who are in the URM category will be in a pool apart for assessment. All others are assessed blindly to this.</p>
<p>I thought Asian wasn't considered a minority anymore....</p>
<p>minority at notre dame, yes. 5% asian.. there are even more hispanics (8%). </p>
<p>minority at harvard, no. 18% asian.</p>
<p>** it says on princeton review that minority status is "considered".</p>
<p>Minority is "considered" just when its Underrepresented</p>
<p>5% is over represented when compared to 4 % asians in the 2000 US census.</p>
<p>WaterPolo - your right asians aren't considered minority</p>
<p>for instants hispanics would be helped since they are only 8% compare to 14% in the US</p>
<p>well that's funny then.. then why am i and another Asian girl from my school invited to the spring visitation weekend if it's just for minorities then? =) just wondering.</p>
<p>I meant minority in the sense that it helps you in your admission to ND, Asians are obviously a MINORITY in the US, but in deciding admission your treated like a white student if not harder.</p>
<p>There are several things to keep in mind when considering the implications of being a "minority". ND, like almost all other competitive colleges, wants to a) create a diverse student body [whether or not this is a legitimate rationale for admissions decisions is beyond the scope of this post] and b) wants to provide their educational opportunities to those who are disadvantaged or otherwise have been given a bad luck of the draw in life. [Admissions teams love applicants who have overcome barriers and obstacles to achievement]. Therefore, most competitive colleges seek out African American applicants with great fervor, since this group is underepresented at most competitive college campuses, since this group has a very high profile as being at the forefront of the society's focus of equal opportunity since the 1960s, and since on average African American applicants are more likely to come from less advantaged backgrounds. Hispanics are also sought after, although they present a more complicated case for admissions officers. Most admission teams would admit that a Hispanic applicant from a decidely disadvantaged background (i.e., parents speak only Spanish, living in poor circumstances, etc.) would be a very attractive candidate. But a Hispanic applicant who is third generation in America and whose parents are demonstrable middle class would have less of an advantage. Asians are another situation altogether, since many Americans of Asian descent are likely to be of average to above average background, and to have parents who have created a highly motivating, achieving environment [which ironically can be a disavantage in the eyes of admissions officers, since, as noted, they like to see applicants who have overcome obstacles more than applicants who have taken advantage of great environemnts]. So while an Asian applicant whose parents do not speak English and who lives in disadvantaged circumstances might be attractive to admissions teams, an Asian applicant whose parents are doctors and lawyers and who live in an upper middle class suburb probably have no advantage from their ethnicity in the admissions process.</p>
<p>parentalexpert is right on the money. asian families have a higher median income than any racial group including whites in the united states so disadvantages are out the door. hispanics, according to the 2000 census make up about 13% (blacks are about 12%) of the population whereas asians only make up 4%. so although you may feel that asians should be represented in greater numbers at notre dame, that claim is not supported. notre dame will push for even greater numbers of blacks and hispanics to break their image of homogeneity but asians are not going to be targeted. essentially you'll be just another white kid to the admissions office.</p>